2013/2/5 Bruno Marchal <[email protected]>

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> On 05 Feb 2013, at 14:34, Roger Clough wrote:
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>  Hi meekerdb
>
>
> There's nothing wrong with science as science.
> But a problem arises when you apply the results to theology.
>
> Two completely different worlds.
>
>
> That's indeed a point where string atheists agree with string christian.
> Let us try to be not serious on theology, so we can assert the fairy tales.
> Strong Christian are happy because they feel like they can contradict the
> scientific evidences, and the atheists are happy so they can continue to
> mock the christians, and continue to sleep on their own (materialist) dogma.
>

You put meaning in atheism which is not there... an atheist can perfectly
be an idealist... materialism is not part of the definition of atheism.

Quentin

>
> That does not give much place for the genuine inquiry, I think.
>
> Bruno
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>  *Time:* 2013-02-04, 13:48:50
> *Subject:* Re: Topical combination
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>  On 2/4/2013 7:56 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
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>
>  On 03 Feb 2013, at 12:30, Roger Clough wrote:
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>  Hi John Mikes
> �
> It says
> �
> "The Fabric of Eternity is the author's personal view of the Universe that
> allows for science and theology to explore the wonders of creation in
> peaceful unison.'
> �
> IMHO that is completely misguided, because the worlds they understand燼re
> separate magisteria, to use�
> Stephan Jay Gould's phrase.� Science deals with the physical world, and
> theology deals with
> the nonphysical world.
>
>
> Only an Aristotelian can say "science deals with the physical world". This
> sums up physicalism.
>
> A Platonist says that science is just the modest tool/method to deal with
> any subject.
>
>
> Except it was Plato who thought he could understand the world by just
> thinking about it, while it was Aristotle who went out to observe and let
> the world teach him.� So who was modest and who was arrogant?
>
> Brent
>
>  Allowing the abandon of science in the theological field can only be an
> invitation to the bad faith in there, and to the "don't ask" mentality.
>
> Bruno
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