On 11 Feb 2013, at 11:51, socra...@bezeqint.net wrote:
I wrote that Planck gave answer to the questions:
How to understand Alice's Quantumland ?
How to describe the Universe as it really is ?
If comp is true, there is no "Physical Universe", only a physical
reality, which belongs to the epistemology of a class of numbers (the
universal numbers, or the universal machines). The (physical) Universe
is really ... a convenient local fiction, explainable by some computer
science theoretical notions, themselves reducible to number
theoretical notion.
The physical universe should be emergent from a web of "number's
dreams", where the dreams are first person modal view arising from
computations.
Does somebody disagree with Planck ?
Alas, those propositions by Planck have to be reframed in the comp
theory, and most are basically open problems.
So I am agnostic on them, but I have clues that the "a)" below is
correct. I develop this in the paper:
Marchal B., 2005, Theoretical computer science and the natural
sciences, Physics of Life Reviews, Vol. 2 Issue 4 December 2005, pp.
251-289.
I agree with Planck that the "outside world" is not a human
construction, but with comp it becomes a universal machine
construction/selection. The laws of physics are selected by coherence
condition on the digital machine dreams.
It looks like you don't look outside physicalism, but with comp,
physics, at least as conceived today, is no more necessarily the
fundamental science. Computer science, or number theory, takes the
lead, or better, machine's theology, or number's theology makes the
job. We have to backtrack 1500 years of research, but of course this
concerns only fundamental studies.
The problem for physicalism is that it used brain-mind identity thesis
which does not work in the computationalist setting. See my URL for
more, or my posts to this list, or to the FOAR list for a more recent
explanation. Or just read the first half of:
http://iridia.ulb.ac.be/~marchal/publications/SANE2004MARCHALAbstract.html
Ask any question.
Bruno
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On Feb 10, 7:46 am, "socra...@bezeqint.net" <socra...@bezeqint.net>
wrote:
How to describe the Universe as it really is ?
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In his " Scientific Autobiography" Max Planck wrote :
' The outside world is something independent from man,
something absolute, and the quest for the laws which apply
to this absolute appeared to me as the most sublime scientific
pursuit in life. '
What are these ' laws which apply to this absolute ' world ?
==..
In the beginning Planck wrote, that " From young years....
the search of the laws, concerning to something absolute,
seemed to me the most wonderful task in scientist’s life."
And after some pages Planck wrote again, that
" the search for something absolute seemed to me the
most wonderful task for a researcher."
And after some pages Planck wrote again, that
“ the most wonderful scientific task for me was
searching of something absolute."
==..
And as for the relation between “relativity and absolute”
Planck wrote, that the fact of " relativity assumes the
existence of something absolute" ;
"the relativity has sense when something absolute resists it.”
Planck wrote that the phrase " all is relative " misleads us,
because there is something absolute .
And the most attractive thing was for Planck
“to find something absolute that was hidden in its foundation.”
3.
And Planck explained what there is absolute in the physics:
a) The Law of conservation and transformation energy,.
b) The negative 4D continuum,
c) The speed of light quanta,
d) The maximum entropy which is possible
at temperature of absolute zero: T=0K.
==.
I think that these four Planck's points are foundation of science.
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socratus
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