' global conservation of energy can't even be defined for
the universe '
Brent

It means that global conservation of energy is infinite .
And this infinite energy belong to the vacuum because  that
 more than 90% of mass ( dark mass/energy ) is hidden in the vacuum
How to understand vacuum's infinity ?
Vacuum's infinity has only one physical parameter: T=0K.
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On Feb 11, 7:48 pm, meekerdb <[email protected]> wrote:
> On 2/11/2013 2:51 AM, [email protected] wrote:
>
> > I wrote that Planck gave answer to the questions:
> > How to understand Alice's Quantumland ?
> > How to describe the Universe as it really is ?
>
> > Does somebody disagree with Planck ?
>
> Well for one thing it appears that global conservation of energy can't even 
> be defined for
> the universe (no timelike Killing field) - so it can hardly be the foundation 
> of physics.
>
> Brent
>
>
>
> > =
>
> > On Feb 10, 7:46 am, "[email protected]"<[email protected]>
> > wrote:
> >>    How to describe the Universe as it really is ?
> >> =.
> >>     In his " Scientific Autobiography" Max Planck wrote :
> >> ' The outside world is something independent from man,
> >>   something absolute, and the quest for the laws which apply
> >>   to this absolute appeared to me as the most sublime scientific
> >>   pursuit in life. '
>
> >>   What are these ' laws which apply to this absolute ' world ?
> >> ==..
> >> In the beginning Planck wrote, that " From young years....
> >> the search of the laws, concerning to something absolute,
> >> seemed to me the most wonderful task in scientist s life."
> >> And after some pages Planck wrote again, that
> >> " the search for something absolute seemed to me the
> >> most wonderful task for a researcher."
> >> And after some pages Planck wrote again, that
> >> the most wonderful scientific task for me was
> >> searching of something absolute."
> >> ==..
> >> And as for the relation between relativity and absolute
> >> Planck wrote, that the fact of  " relativity assumes the
> >> existence of something absolute" ;
> >> "the relativity has sense when something absolute resists it.
> >> Planck wrote that the phrase " all is relative " misleads us,
> >>   because there is something absolute .
> >> And the most attractive thing was for Planck
> >> to find something absolute that was hidden in its foundation.
> >> 3.
> >> And Planck explained what there is absolute in the physics:
> >> a) The Law of conservation and transformation energy,.
> >> b) The negative 4D continuum,
> >> c) The speed of light quanta,
> >> d) The maximum entropy which is possible
> >> at temperature of absolute zero: T=0K.
> >> ==.
> >> I think that these four Planck's points are foundation of science.
> >> =.
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