On 11 Feb 2013, at 18:30, John Clark wrote:

On Mon, Feb 11, 2013 at 10:16 AM, Bruno Marchal <marc...@ulb.ac.be> wrote

> The Watson program is competent, but I doubt it makes sense to say it is intelligent.

Just like with "God" and "atheist" it looks like we're back at the tired old game of redefining words. Using the normal meaning of "intelligent" if somebody can beat you at checkers and chess and equation solving and Jeopardy then they are more intelligent than you at those activities.

It is better to use the term "competence". Competence depends on domain. I use intelligence for a deeper ability which does not need to be domain dependent. Yet it is needed to develop many sort of competence.




So if Watson isn't intelligent he's something better than intelligent.

It is competent in jeopardy.




And just today news was released that Watson is well on its way at becoming better than human doctors at diagnosing disease.

http://www.informationweek.com/healthcare/clinical-systems/ibm-watson-helps-doctors-fight-cancer/240148236


Making it competent in that domain.
Intelligence is a more general mind state making it possible to be flexible, to get jokes, to get bored, to take distance, to be curious, to find new questions, to develop modesty, ...

I am open to the idea that universal number are initially intelligent, but lost that intelligence when specializing too much (as they might lost also their universality).

Intelligence is something emotional, and it relates consciousness and the many possible competence. Like "universality", intelligence is domain independent.




> He lacks the self-reference needed to make sense of intelligence,

Watson can do even better than make sense out of intelligence, Watson can make concrete actions out of intelligence, among many other things Watson can move chess pieces around in such a way as to beat you or any other human in a game.

I can beat Watson in chess. Watson, if I remember correctly, is competent in Jeopardy, and only in Jeopardy. But that's besides the point. I have no doubt that Watson is quite competent, but I don't see any of its behavior as reflecting intelligence. Today I see this in animals and humans. Perhaps plants on some different scales. Intelligence, like consciousness, cannot be judged by others, unlike competence. But it can be locally appreciated, though.

Bruno




  John K Clark


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