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[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of meekerdb
Sent: Wednesday, September 04, 2013 4:41 PM
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Subject: Re: When will a computer pass the Turing Test?
On 9/4/2013 2:55 PM, Chris de Morsella wrote:
Our brain's are supplying us with our reality and two people immersed in the
same environment will often come away with different descriptions of that
environment and will experience different realities when immersed in that
environmental stream of sense data. Even though the raw sense stream is the
same in both cases; the inner mental experience that is "lived" can be very
different indeed.
But the interesting point is that we can, given enough data, agree on an
intersubjective reality. Whether we feel threatened by a big black guy on a
lonely street is subjective. But whether said figure actually is a big
black guy we can find out. The latter is part of reality, because that's
how "reality" is defined - intersubjective agreement. But feeling
threatened is a subjective reaction.
Yes, I agree that to some extent we can carefully reconstruct a shared
perceptive experience and in a process of conscious re-examination and
comparison of each subjects perceptive experience remove the layers of
subjective coloration we have overlaid over it - but this is assuming our
brain did not suppress the perception entirely, but rather characterized it
in some subjective manner.
The person who failed to "see" the man in the gorilla suit walking across
their field of view - perhaps because they were mentally focused on a near
field complex visual task - will never get to "see" that perception, in fact
they will never even know that they missed seeing it in their mind's eye -
for clearly at some level the brain sees the man in the gorilla suit walking
across the field - unless they are shown a video of their field of view or
are otherwise convinced that they somehow failed to see the outrageous image
of a man in a gorilla suit walking across their field of view.
-Chris
Brent
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