Brent: *"**But no matter how smart I make it, it won't experience lust."* * * 1. "lust" is not the universal criterion that makes us human, it is only one of our humanly circumscribed paraphernalia we apply in HUMAN thinking and HUMAN complexity with HUMAN language. Can you apply a similar criterion for the robot in 'it's' characteristics?
2. A N D if *YOU * cannot make it 'smarter', is that a general statement? John M On Wed, Oct 2, 2013 at 1:15 AM, meekerdb <meeke...@verizon.net> wrote: > On 10/1/2013 9:56 PM, Pierz wrote: > >> Yes, I understand that to be Chalmer's main point. Although, if the >> qualia can be different, it does present issues - how much and in what way >> can it vary? >> > > Yes, that's a question that interests me because I want to be able to > build intelligent machines and so I need to know what qualia they will > have, if any. I think it will depend on their sensors and on their > values/goals. If I build a very intelligent Mars Rover, capable of > learning and reasoning, with a goal of discovering whether there was once > life on Mars; then I expect it will experience pleasure in finding evidence > regarding this. But no matter how smart I make it, it won't experience > lust. > > > > I'm curious what the literature has to say about that. And if >> functionalism means reproducing more than the mere functional output of a >> system, if it potentially means replication down to the elementary >> particles and possibly their quantum entanglements, then duplication >> becomes impossible, not merely technically but in principle. That seems >> against the whole point of functionalism - as the idea of "function" is >> reduced to something almost meaningless. >> > > I think functionalism must be confined to the classical functions, > discounting the quantum level effects. But it must include some behavior > that is almost entirely internal - e.g. planning, imagining. Excluding > quantum entanglements isn't arbitrary; there cannot have been any evolution > of goals and values based on quantum entanglement (beyond the statistical > effects that produce decoherence and quasi-classical behavior). > > Brent > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to > everything-list+unsubscribe@**googlegroups.com<everything-list%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com> > . > To post to this group, send email to > everything-list@googlegroups.**com<firstname.lastname@example.org> > . > Visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/**group/everything-list<http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list> > . > For more options, visit > https://groups.google.com/**groups/opt_out<https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out> > . > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to email@example.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.