On 10/15/2013 3:54 AM, Quentin Anciaux wrote:
2013/10/15 Richard Ruquist <yann...@gmail.com <mailto:yann...@gmail.com>>

    Bruno: On the contrary: I assume only that my brain (or generalized brain) 
is
    computable, then I show that basically all the rest is not. In everything, 
or just
    in arithmetic, the computable is rare and exceptional.

    Richard: Wow. This contradicts everything I have ever though Bruno was 
claiming. How
    does anything exist if it is not computed by "the" or "a" machine? And I 
thought the
    generalized brain did the computations, not that it was only computed. How 
does
    Bruno show that "all the rest" which presumably includes energy and matter 
is not
    computed. Bruno is constantly confusing me.


Energy and matter (and the universe whatever it is), is composed by the sum

What does "sum" mean?  And how does is constitute a piece of matter?

of the infinity of computations going through your state.... as it is defined by an infinity of computations (and not one), it is not "computed".

But that's not a definition. It's saying the piece of matter is *constituted* by an infinity of computations. But what associates the computations to a piece of matter that we *define* ostensively?

Brent


A piece of matter (or you fwiw) below the substitution level is an infinity of 
computations.

Quentin

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