I know a single concept of people.... I wonder what´s the new concept of people, different from the one I manage (either philosophical or not)
Have they rights? 2013/10/29 Telmo Menezes <te...@telmomenezes.com> > On Tue, Oct 29, 2013 at 9:25 AM, Alberto G. Corona <agocor...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > Cells are people, perhaps. Dendrites and molecules lack self-referential > > means, like quarks. > > > > Then cows are Nietzchian superpeople. That disqualifies half of mi > fridge's > > food. > > You can't just mix two unrelated philosophical concepts that happen to > share the same string of characters and call it an argument. > > > > > 2013/10/29 Bruno Marchal <marc...@ulb.ac.be> > >> > >> > >> On 28 Oct 2013, at 19:55, Craig Weinberg wrote: > >> > >> > >> > >> On Monday, October 28, 2013 1:53:02 PM UTC-4, Bruno Marchal wrote: > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> I refer you to my rare posts where I suggest that the level is the > >>> molecular level, and should include the glial cells, which in my > opinion > >>> (from diverse reading) handle to information. > >>> > >>> I also defend the idea that an amoeba, by being unicellular, can be > seen > >>> as a cell being simultaneously a digestive cell, a muscular cells, a > liver > >>> cell, a kidney cell, a bone cell, and a brain cell. > >>> > >>> Amoebas are not completely stupid and deserve respects, and so are any > >>> each of our own cells, despite those cells in multicellular organism > have > >>> lost a bit of their freedom and universality to cooperate in what is > >>> ourself. > >>> > >>> Again, the bold quote illustrates comp, and the fact that the level is > >>> lower than some thought. > >>> > >>> Also with comp, consciousness is NOT a product of the mind. that's > still > >>> too much an aristotelian way to express the "identity" thesis. > Consciousness > >>> is not physical, it is the mental state of person associated to > machines, > >>> when those person develop *some* true belief. > >> > >> > >> So if dendrites and molecules are people, why not quarks and numbers? > >> > >> > >> Cells are people, perhaps. Dendrites and molecules lack self-referential > >> means, like quarks. > >> relative numbers does not lack them, but as 3p pure notion, are not > >> people, but people can emerge from them and their cognitive abilities. > >> > >> Bruno > >> > >> > >> > >> > >>> > >>> > >>> Bruno > >>> > >>> > >>> http://iridia.ulb.ac.be/~marchal/ > >>> > >>> > >>> > >> > >> -- > >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups > >> "Everything List" group. > >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send > an > >> email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > >> To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. > >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. > >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > >> > >> > >> http://iridia.ulb.ac.be/~marchal/ > >> > >> > >> > >> -- > >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups > >> "Everything List" group. > >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send > an > >> email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > >> To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. > >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. > >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Alberto. > > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > > "Everything List" group. > > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > > email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > > To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. > > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. > > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > -- Alberto. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
