Regarding government totalitarianism in Nazi terms: Carl Schmitt reasoned
that corporations have the potential to become "states". If the government
doesn't keep their authority in check, they will enslave people and
government through market influence.

We're perhaps still running "dominance over reason" pretty much everywhere
in the traditional colonial style... A few months ago the similarity of
foundations and of legal justifications for exceptional powers ("state of
emergency" Patriot, NDAA, secret Camps, limitless surveillance etc.)
between international politics to political philosophy driving Nazi Germany
struck me.

Carl Schmitt focused a lot of this for the Nazis in his writings. Now, I am
not equating what is going on today with Germany then; that would be too
quick and simplistic. Even if Wikipedia cannot reflect the nuances of his
writing in German, it's still worth checking out his "work" section summary
on Wikipedia and to ask ourselves: how much more civilized have we become
since then? To what extent, have we really turned a page on this "dominance
model of hierarchical politics" that the Nazis developed into the 20th
century; and re-branded that as "globalized freedom striving"?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carl_Schmitt

I'm not so sure we completely got rid of Nazi philosophy. I wonder if John
Clark would consider this a philosophical contribution to the 20th century,
lol! This philosophy does seem to have "real consequences felt by
everybody". PGC


On Tue, Nov 5, 2013 at 7:21 AM, LizR <lizj...@gmail.com> wrote:

> On 5 November 2013 17:11, <spudboy...@aol.com> wrote:
>
>> I would put marxism and fascism close together and not polar opposites.
>> Because Marxists claim that they are for the proles does not really mean
>> that they are. It just means that they try to BS people with this claim. In
>> fact, there are no, non mixed economies anymore, in the us, china, and
>> russia. Its all a two classsystem of rule by party leaders, and their pet
>> billionaires. Cronyism. Marxism killed 40 million people  in China, during
>> the great leap forwards. It was never deliberate, but doing practices that
>> ruined crop growth, by following party eddicts.
>>
>> You're conflating the works of Karl Marx with people who paid lip service
> to them. Do you uncritically believe that (say) America has a free market
> economy because they say so?
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