2013/12/5 Jason Resch <[email protected]> > > > > On Thu, Dec 5, 2013 at 10:09 AM, Quentin Anciaux <[email protected]>wrote: > >> >> >> >> 2013/12/5 Jason Resch <[email protected]> >> >>> >>> >>> >>> On Thu, Dec 5, 2013 at 4:15 AM, Bruno Marchal <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> On 05 Dec 2013, at 09:53, Jason Resch wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Thu, Dec 5, 2013 at 1:48 AM, Quentin Anciaux <[email protected]>wrote: >>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> 2013/12/5 Jason Resch <[email protected]> >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Thu, Dec 5, 2013 at 12:59 AM, Quentin Anciaux >>>>>> <[email protected]>wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Measure is relative, >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Yes, so your current measure of next finding yourself in a Drelb >>>>>> continuation, is relatively low compared to the measure of you still >>>>>> being >>>>>> conscious on Earth. But if you point a quantum gun at your head and pull >>>>>> the trigger 30 times, your Earth-continuation measure continues to fall, >>>>>> it >>>>>> is reduced by a factor of a billion. At this point, your Drelb-based >>>>>> extensions may become relatively higher than your Earth-based extensions, >>>>>> and therefore you would be likely to experience a transition to those >>>>>> realms of higher measure. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> it doesn't drop while you approach death. >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Your measure drops whenever you make yourself more unique, >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> You doesn't, you always have an infinity of continuations. >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> In measure theory ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Measure_(mathematics) ) >>>> just because there are an infinite number does not mean they are equal. >>>> Your measure each time you pull the trigger in the quantum gun is >>>> (approximately) halved. >>>> >>>> >>>> ? >>>> >>>> Your relative measure on the continuations where you survive remains >>>> constant and equal to one. >>>> >>> >>> >>> I was considering only the continuations where you survive, (which >>> subjectively is one), but the proportion of the continuations where you >>> survive that are explained by non-traditional means (simulation argument, >>> dream of God, etc.) increases relative to the dwindling the fraction of >>> biologically surviving instances. >>> >>> When I spoke of one's measure decreasing, I was referring to the >>> person's objective measure in reality, which to me seems to decrease when >>> one is tested by a dangerous encounter. I am not suggesting that there was >>> a 50% chance you would "stop being you" when you pull the trigger, but that >>> there is an ever increasing chance you will take some strange paths to >>> survive. And this is because the measure of the biologically surviving >>> copies, relative to the non-biological surviving copies, decreases. >>> >>> >>> >>>> We cannot count the cul-de-sac reality (and that is why Bp & Dt can >>>> give a quantum measure). Some absolute measure does not make sense. >>>> >>>> >>> Does RSSA imply one does no harm to their measure (objective or >>> subjective) by spending a day in the the box with Schrodinger's cat? >>> >>> >> No, because there is no absolute measure to decrease to begin with. The >> thing is, doing dangerous thing *increase* likeliness to experience being >> crippled, that's what is more likely. >> > > My understanding of the RSSA vs. ASSA difference concerns only the > expectation of one's next conscious experience. That is, the RSSA does not > deny the reality of an objective, global, relative measure of all observers >
It doesn't deby it, it doesn't say anything about it... the thing is, ASSA is inconsisent, and not compatible with RSSA. Quentin > , it says only that the measure of those other observers (which are not > continuations of one's current state) are irrelevant to predicting your > next experience. Is this incorrect? > > Jason > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > -- All those moments will be lost in time, like tears in rain. (Roy Batty/Rutger Hauer) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
