On Sat, Dec 7, 2013 at 3:13 AM, Bruno Marchal <marc...@ulb.ac.be> wrote:
> > On 06 Dec 2013, at 20:35, Jason Resch wrote: > > > > > On Fri, Dec 6, 2013 at 4:10 AM, LizR <lizj...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> On 6 December 2013 21:52, Bruno Marchal <marc...@ulb.ac.be> wrote: >> >>> >>> On 05 Dec 2013, at 20:05, Jason Resch wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On Thu, Dec 5, 2013 at 12:23 PM, Bruno Marchal <marc...@ulb.ac.be>wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> On 05 Dec 2013, at 17:20, Jason Resch wrote: >>>> >>>> So if you were to spend a day in the box with Schrodinger's cat (each >>>> hour having a 50% chance of poisoning you), what would you predict >>>> experience to be at the end of that day? >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> I like to answer this by this: At the end of the day I feel well and >>>> kiss the cat, together with a total amnesia of having gazed, which begin by >>>> a nausea, vomiting, cruel pain and agonizing death. I would put quantum >>>> flowers on 'his' quantum tomb to have died for me. Respect for the little >>>> kitty too. >>>> >>> I don't see this. Surely you are far more likely to have experienced the >> nausea and pain, and to have nevertheless survived somehow - by a very >> unlikely chance - than to have lucked out and not been gassed at all? >> >> This is the problem with QTI - it seems to me almost inevitable that one >> will only survive in a very unfortunate state, at least for a long time. >> >> > Yes, if QTI, or Computational Immortality are true, then the only way to > explain them, given we are not infinitely old, is that we are in a state of > amnesia concerning our true history of experiences. > > > In a sense, below our substitution level, we should be indeed old, because > the FPI get maximal, on all computations going through your current state, > and almost all computations are arbitrarily long. That's why it is still > possible that comp implies an infinite age for the physical reality. > But conscious beings can hop from "physical reality" to "physical reality", depending on where the continuations exists, can't they? Just as a computer emulation of a conscious being may not run forever, it can still temporarily instantiate them, and when that computer stops, it does not end the consciousness as it "hops" to another computer somewhere else which keeps on going. Jason -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to email@example.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.