Thanks for the welcome to the group. It's certainly far superior to most 
and the members should be commended!

To address your questions. No, the computations of the universe exist don't 
run in a physical reality. Physical reality emerges from these computations 
as they are interpreted in human, and other organism's, mental models of 

Light cones are important but emerge FROM computational reality as 
dimensionalization emerges from quantum events. (See my post on the quantum 
aspects of my work in a separate topic of that title).

Light cones are how we visually see and confirm the 4-dimensional 
hyperspherical geometry of our universe. We actually see all 4-dimensions 
all the time as we look down our light cones. Our 4-dimensional universe 
lies clear before us. No tricks needed!

Therefore your gravity=acceleration argument (which is of course true) 
doesn't apply. There is a single self-consistent universal  computational 
system at the information level. Different relativistic views of this 
reality, with different light cones, are just different ways different 
observers view and interpret the dimensional aspects of this single 
universal computational reality in their respective frames as they emerge 
from quantum events.


On Friday, December 20, 2013 6:52:54 PM UTC-5, Edgar L. Owen wrote:
> All,
> The fundamental nature of reality is examined in detail in my recent book 
> on Reality available on Amazon under my name.
> Marchal is on the right track, but reality consists not just of numbers 
> (math) but is a running logical structure analogous to software that 
> continually computes the current state of the universe. Just as software 
> includes but doesn't consist only of numbers and math, so does reality. In 
> fact the equations of physical science make sense only when embedded in a 
> logical structure just as is the case in computational reality.
> Modern science has a major lacuna, the notion that all of reality is 
> mathematical, that prevents science from grasping the complete nature of 
> reality. In truth all of reality is logical, as is software, and the 
> mathematics is just a subset of the logic. After all, modern science with 
> its misguided insistence that all of reality is mathematical, has had 
> nothing useful to say about the nature of either consciousness or the 
> present moment, the two most fundamental aspects of experience. However I 
> present a computational based information approach to these in my book 
> among many other things.
> The second clarification that needs to be made to the post on Marchal's 
> work is that human math and logic are distinct from the actual math and 
> logic that computes reality. The human version is a generalized and 
> extended approximation of the actual that differs from the actual 
> logico-mathematical structure of reality in important ways (e.g. infinities 
> and infinitesimals which don't actually exist in external reality).
> I can explain further if anyone is interested, or you can read about it in 
> my book...
> Edgar Owen

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