Your theory comes from Von Neumann, and Chaitin, and Wolfram, does it not, 
Edgar? That everything is a program or cellular automata, and "in the beginning 
was a program." Following along, what is this Logic comprised of (sort of like 
SPK's query) is it electrons, is it virtual particles, is it field lines? Where 
doth the logical structure sleep? In Planck Cells? I apologize if my questions 
annoy, but where is the computer network that computes the current state of the 
universe. Can we get MIT physicist Seth Lloyd to shake a stick or a laser 
pointer, or otherwise, display, where this abacus dwells?  

Thanks, 
Mitch


-----Original Message-----
From: Stephen Paul King <stephe...@charter.net>
To: everything-list <everything-list@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Sun, Dec 22, 2013 1:36 pm
Subject: Re: Bruno's mathematical reality


Dear Edger,


  Where does the "fire" come from that animates the "logic"?


On Friday, December 20, 2013 6:52:54 PM UTC-5, Edgar L. Owen wrote:

All,


The fundamental nature of reality is examined in detail in my recent book on 
Reality available on Amazon under my name.


Marchal is on the right track, but reality consists not just of numbers (math) 
but is a running logical structure analogous to software that continually 
computes the current state of the universe. Just as software includes but 
doesn't consist only of numbers and math, so does reality. In fact the 
equations of physical science make sense only when embedded in a logical 
structure just as is the case in computational reality.


Modern science has a major lacuna, the notion that all of reality is 
mathematical, that prevents science from grasping the complete nature of 
reality. In truth all of reality is logical, as is software, and the 
mathematics is just a subset of the logic. After all, modern science with its 
misguided insistence that all of reality is mathematical, has had nothing 
useful to say about the nature of either consciousness or the present moment, 
the two most fundamental aspects of experience. However I present a 
computational based information approach to these in my book among many other 
things.


The second clarification that needs to be made to the post on Marchal's work is 
that human math and logic are distinct from the actual math and logic that 
computes reality. The human version is a generalized and extended approximation 
of the actual that differs from the actual logico-mathematical structure of 
reality in important ways (e.g. infinities and infinitesimals which don't 
actually exist in external reality).


I can explain further if anyone is interested, or you can read about it in my 
book...


Edgar Owen





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