Mitch, No, my theory comes not from those gentlemen, but (at least hopefully) from reality itself.
As to where reality's 'computer network' exists see my previous reply to Mitch where I explain in a fair amount of detail trying to answer his excellent question... Edgar On Dec 22, 2013, at 2:04 PM, [email protected] wrote: > Your theory comes from Von Neumann, and Chaitin, and Wolfram, does it not, > Edgar? That everything is a program or cellular automata, and "in the > beginning was a program." Following along, what is this Logic comprised of > (sort of like SPK's query) is it electrons, is it virtual particles, is it > field lines? Where doth the logical structure sleep? In Planck Cells? I > apologize if my questions annoy, but where is the computer network that > computes the current state of the universe. Can we get MIT physicist Seth > Lloyd to shake a stick or a laser pointer, or otherwise, display, where this > abacus dwells? > > Thanks, > Mitch > -----Original Message----- > From: Stephen Paul King <[email protected]> > To: everything-list <[email protected]> > Sent: Sun, Dec 22, 2013 1:36 pm > Subject: Re: Bruno's mathematical reality > > Dear Edger, > > Where does the "fire" come from that animates the "logic"? > > > On Friday, December 20, 2013 6:52:54 PM UTC-5, Edgar L. Owen wrote: > All, > > The fundamental nature of reality is examined in detail in my recent book on > Reality available on Amazon under my name. > > Marchal is on the right track, but reality consists not just of numbers > (math) but is a running logical structure analogous to software that > continually computes the current state of the universe. Just as software > includes but doesn't consist only of numbers and math, so does reality. In > fact the equations of physical science make sense only when embedded in a > logical structure just as is the case in computational reality. > > Modern science has a major lacuna, the notion that all of reality is > mathematical, that prevents science from grasping the complete nature of > reality. In truth all of reality is logical, as is software, and the > mathematics is just a subset of the logic. After all, modern science with its > misguided insistence that all of reality is mathematical, has had nothing > useful to say about the nature of either consciousness or the present moment, > the two most fundamental aspects of experience. However I present a > computational based information approach to these in my book among many other > things. > > The second clarification that needs to be made to the post on Marchal's work > is that human math and logic are distinct from the actual math and logic that > computes reality. The human version is a generalized and extended > approximation of the actual that differs from the actual logico-mathematical > structure of reality in important ways (e.g. infinities and infinitesimals > which don't actually exist in external reality). > > I can explain further if anyone is interested, or you can read about it in my > book... > > Edgar Owen > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
