What is OE? In New Zealand that stands for Overseas Experience when you go off in your gap year to travel. Or is it Owen, Edgar?! :)
Again this begs the question of how and where and when are these computations occurring? This implies a time external to the universe, at the very least, computations being dynamic processes. On 26 December 2013 06:57, Bruno Marchal <[email protected]> wrote: > > On 25 Dec 2013, at 16:15, Edgar L. Owen wrote: > > Bruno, > > There simply is no physical universe. > > > > We might agree, if you use "physical universe" in the Aristotelian sense. > > > > The universe is information being computed in OE only. > > > OE? > Can you make precise what you mean by information being computed? > > > > Physical universes are interpretations of the actual information universe > in organismic minds. > > > What are organismic minds? > > Bruno > > > > That is their only reality. They are mental models or simulations of the > actual information reality, and they also as parts of that information > reality are themselves also only information. > > Edgar > > > > > On Sunday, December 22, 2013 3:10:30 PM UTC-5, Edgar L. Owen wrote: >> >> All, >> >> The question of whether God exists is meaningless without first giving >> some definition of what is meant by God, of how God is defined. Otherwise >> everyone is talking about different things and nothing will go anywhere. >> >> If you need a God there is only one possible rational definition and that >> is to just define God as the universe itself. First there is now absolute >> certainty that God does exist (all the interminable meaningless arguments >> vanish), and second his attributes now become the proper subject matter of >> science and reason rather than ideology, faith or myth. >> >> But most certainly the dogmas of all the organized religions are all >> atavistic myths in the same category as Zeus and Odin which, like them, >> should have been discarded millennia ago.... >> >> Edgar >> >> >> >> > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > > http://iridia.ulb.ac.be/~marchal/ > > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
