Hi Howard,

Your comments pertain (correctly) to clock time but not to P-time, the time 
of the present moment. It is clear that the t's of clock time differ 
between clocks according to relativistic conditions.

You need to understand that the present moment is independent of any 
particular clock time, it is the common present moment WITHIN which all 
clock times may have different t values.

When the space traveling twins reunite with different clock time t values 
they ALWAYS reunite in the exact same present moment.

That's the key insight I'm trying to get across. 


On Wednesday, December 25, 2013 11:52:10 AM UTC-5, Edgar L. Owen wrote:
> All,
> ST=spacetime, c=speed of light, thus STc Principle.
> To answer some of Jason's questions. Block time is wrong. Only the common 
> present moment exists. All the comments Jason makes refer only to 
> differences in clock times which are well known, but the important point is 
> that all those differences in clock time occur in the SAME common present 
> moment.. I find it difficult to understand why so many people can't get 
> their minds around the difference which proves there are two distinct kinds 
> of time.
> The past exists only as inferences from the present as to what states 
> would have resulted in the present according to the currently known laws of 
> physics. Therefore the past is actually determined by the present state of 
> reality from the perspective of the present which is the only valid 
> perspective. Therefore the logical network of past and present is absolute 
> 100% exact and could not have been different in even the slightest detail. 
> The actual currently state of the universe falsifies the very possibility 
> of other pasts. This is another difficult concept for many. 
> Only the future is probabilistic because it does not yet exist and has 
> never been computed. But the past - present logical state has been actually 
> computed and thus is completely deterministic now that it exists and it 
> could not have been different in any minute detail at all.
> This solves the problem of the original fine tuning. Given the current 
> state of reality which is all that exists, all other conceivable fine 
> tunings are impossible. This is what I call the 'Super Anthropic 
> Principle', and it negates the necessity and probably the actuality of 
> postulating any multiverses and strongly implies our observable universe is 
> most probably the only one that exists.
> Edgar

You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"Everything List" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.

Reply via email to