On Thursday, December 26, 2013 2:24:52 PM UTC-5, Brent wrote: > > On 12/26/2013 4:25 AM, Edgar L. Owen wrote: > > Spudboy, > > There is no observer in the usual sense of a human observer needed for > quantum events. But in effect every participant in a quantum event acts as > an observer of that event. > > > In fact you don't even need any participants, not even instrumental ones: > > Decoherence of matter waves by thermal emission of radiation, > arXiv:quant-ph/040214v1 > > Brent > P.S. Edgar, I notice that when you post a reply it includes your prior > post, as though you're replying to yourself (see below). But it doesn't > include anyone else's comments, which are actually what you're replying > to. If you know how, it would be good to change that so we could see what > exactly you're replying to. > > > > The theory of decoherence has rightfully superseded the old mistaken > notion of an observer 'causing' a wavefunction collapse, if that's what you > are referring to. > > Edgar > > > > > On Wednesday, December 25, 2013 11:52:10 AM UTC-5, Edgar L. Owen wrote: >> >> All, >> >> ST=spacetime, c=speed of light, thus STc Principle. >> >> To answer some of Jason's questions. Block time is wrong. Only the >> common present moment exists. All the comments Jason makes refer only to >> differences in clock times which are well known, but the important point is >> that all those differences in clock time occur in the SAME common present >> moment.. I find it difficult to understand why so many people can't get >> their minds around the difference which proves there are two distinct kinds >> of time. >> >> The past exists only as inferences from the present as to what states >> would have resulted in the present according to the currently known laws of >> physics. Therefore the past is actually determined by the present state of >> reality from the perspective of the present which is the only valid >> perspective. Therefore the logical network of past and present is absolute >> 100% exact and could not have been different in even the slightest detail. >> The actual currently state of the universe falsifies the very possibility >> of other pasts. This is another difficult concept for many. >> >> Only the future is probabilistic because it does not yet exist and has >> never been computed. But the past - present logical state has been actually >> computed and thus is completely deterministic now that it exists and it >> could not have been different in any minute detail at all. >> >> This solves the problem of the original fine tuning. Given the current >> state of reality which is all that exists, all other conceivable fine >> tunings are impossible. This is what I call the 'Super Anthropic >> Principle', and it negates the necessity and probably the actuality of >> postulating any multiverses and strongly implies our observable universe is >> most probably the only one that exists. >> >> Edgar >> >> >> -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to everything-li...@googlegroups.com <javascript:>. > To post to this group, send email to everyth...@googlegroups.com<javascript:> > . > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > >
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