# Re: Tegmark's New Book

```Dear Edgar,
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What mouth? It is only the relations between numbers!

On Thu, Jan 16, 2014 at 9:35 AM, Edgar L. Owen <edgaro...@att.net> wrote:

> Stephen,
>
> It's amazing how much your mouth has to move to tell me it's not moving!
>
> Edgar
>
>
> On Wednesday, January 15, 2014 7:55:09 PM UTC-5, Stephen Paul King wrote:
>
>> Dear Edgar,
>>
>>   Bingo! You are correct. All motion in space-time is an illusion. The
>> ancient greeks figured that out already.
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Jan 15, 2014 at 7:53 PM, Edgar L. Owen <edga...@att.net> wrote:
>>
>> Stephen,
>>
>> If time doesn't move then nothing moves.
>>
>> Edgar
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wednesday, January 15, 2014 7:48:02 PM UTC-5, Stephen Paul King wrote:
>>
>> Dear Edgar,
>>
>>   Time is not the movement of the hands or numbers of a clock, it is the
>> measure of the mapping between the positions of the hands. That is not
>> "motion", it is something else. Time does not move.
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Jan 15, 2014 at 7:45 PM, Edgar L. Owen <edga...@att.net> wrote:
>>
>> Stephen,
>>
>> "Time does not move"??? Even your clock knows better than that! And you
>> think my theories are weird!
>>
>>  Edgar
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wednesday, January 15, 2014 7:35:26 PM UTC-5, Stephen Paul King wrote:
>>
>>  Dear Bot,
>>
>> responses are failing to achieve the predicted response. Get new ones.
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Jan 15, 2014 at 7:31 PM, Edgar L. Owen <edga...@att.net> wrote:
>>
>> Stephen,
>>
>> c is actually the speed of TIME as the STc equation makes clear. It just
>> so happens that light, having no velocity in time, always travels at the
>> speed of time in all observers' frames thorough SPACE. All its spacetime
>> velocity is only through space.
>>
>> I didn't say anything travels faster than c. Why claim that?
>>
>> Edgar
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wednesday, January 15, 2014 7:14:56 PM UTC-5, Stephen Paul King wrote:
>>
>> Dear Edgar,
>>
>>   Your argument is based on a disconception of what the speed of light
>> is! Light -photons- do not "move" at all. They are the null length "rays"
>> that connect events together. Nothing can travel faster than c because to
>> do so would be traveling in less than zero distances.
>>   A light cone is defined as those events that are "connected" by the
>> null rays. You really need to go back to the books and work the math to
>> learn and understand what it means. Books for laymen are only good for
>> wetting one's appetites for the real thing.
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Jan 15, 2014 at 7:02 PM, Edgar L. Owen <edga...@att.net> wrote:
>>
>> Brent,
>>
>> Bravo! Someone actually registered some of my arguments, though I would
>> state them slightly differently.
>>
>> The argument in question, that everyone except Brent seems to have
>> missed, is simple.
>>
>> SR requires that everything moves at the speed of light through
>> spacetime. This is NOT just "a useful myth", it's a very important
>> fundamental principle of reality (I call it the STc Principle).
>>
>> This is true of all motions in all frames. It's a universal absolute
>> principle.
>>
>> Now the fact that every
>>
>> ...
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