On Sat, Jan 18, 2014 at 11:11:57PM -0800, Chris de Morsella wrote:
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> [mailto:everything-list@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Russell Standish
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> Subject: Re: Discovery of quantum vibrations in brain microtubules confirms
> Hameroff/Penrose consciousness theory basis
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> On Sat, Jan 18, 2014 at 05:56:23PM +1300, LizR wrote:
> > On 18 January 2014 13:33, Russell Standish <li...@hpcoders.com.au> wrote:
> > 
> > > On Fri, Jan 17, 2014 at 04:08:08PM -0800, Edgar L. Owen wrote:
> > > > Russell,
> > > >
> > > > PS: On second thought maybe we don't agree completely. Though free 
> > > > will
> > > is
> > > > quantum random based (we agree on that), it doesn't mean that it 
> > > > is "irrational".
> > > >
> > > > If human actions and the actions of other biological organisms 
> > > > weren't basically rational they couldn't function or survive in 
> > > > the real actual world they live in....
> > >
> > > That is not true. Read up on the concept of Machiavellian 
> > > Intelligence. A modicum of irrationality is just what it takes to 
> > > get ahead in the world, it makes one less predictable to one's
> competitors.
> > >
> > 
> > Russell, what you are saying here is that unpredictability is 
> > rational, not that "irrationality is what it takes to get ahead" !
> 
> >>No, I'm not. Rational agents are entirely predictable. They always choose
> the best course of action, or fail to make a choice at all ("it does not
> compute!"). They cannot behave unpredictably.
> 
> This definition pretty much eliminates the 7 billion plus naked (clothed)
> apes mucking this place up from the running... oh well.
> 
> 

Exactly! Humans are sometimes rational, but much less so than
economists presume.

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