On 21 Jan 2014, at 21:49, meekerdb wrote:

On 1/21/2014 4:33 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
That is already present in Gödel 1931, and today we know that even just one diophantine (on integeres) polynomial of degree four can emulated all computations; or be Turing universal.

Just to check that I understand what that means: There is a diophantine equation such that you can parse a solution set of the equation into an input and a result such that the set of all such solutions sets correspond to all possible functions (in arithmetice). Right?

Er... Well, I am not sure I can parse this :)

Let me restate the point a bit more precisely.

Let {phi_i, w_i} be an enumeration of the partial computable phi_i with their respective domain w_i. A partial computable function with w_i = N is called total. OK.

Now phi_i(x) = y can be translated into arithmetic (using for example the Kleene predicate). In fact it can be put in the form of <x, y> belongs to some w_i.

More simply, the set of finite computations (the set of the initial segment of UD*, for example) is a recursively enumerable (RE) set, and thus is a w_i itself (cf: the w_i enumerates also the RE sets, not just the dom(phi_i)). Let us call it w_du

So I can translate "x is a computation" by "x belongs to w_du.

But now, I can use the Matiyasevitch-Jones Universal diophantine relation.
(the unknowns range on the non negative integers (= 0 included)
There are 31 unknowns: A, B, C, D, E, F, G, H, I, J, K, L, M, N, O, P, Q, R, S, T, W, Z, U, Y, Al, Ga, Et, Th, La, Ta, Ph,
and two parameters:  du itself and x.

So we can translate "x is in w_du", i.e. x is a finite computation,  by

du = ((ZUY)^2 + U)^2 + Y   (that's just coding)

ELG^2 + Al = (B - xY)Q^2

Qu = B^(5^60)

La + Qu^4 = 1 + LaB^5

Th +  2Z = B^5

L = U + TTh

E = Y + MTh

N = Q^16

R = [G + EQ^3 + LQ^5 + (2(E - ZLa)(1 + xB^5 + G)^4 + LaB^5 + + LaB^5Q^4)Q^4](N^2 -N)
         + [Q^3 -BL + L + ThLaQ^3 + (B^5 - 2)Q^5] (N^2 - 1)

P = 2W(S^2)(R^2)N^2

(P^2)K^2 - K^2 + 1 = Ta^2

4(c - KSN^2)^2 + Et = K^2

K = R + 1 + HP - H

A = (WN^2 + 1)RSN^2

C = 2R + 1 Ph

D = BW + CA -2C + 4AGa -5Ga

D^2 = (A^2 - 1)C^2 + 1

F^2 = (A^2 - 1)(I^2)C^4 + 1

(D + OF)^2 = ((A + F^2(D^2 - A^2))^2 - 1)(2R + 1 + JC)^2 + 1

So all solutions of this will give the x which are computations.

Hope this helped a bit,

Bruno





Brent

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