No matter how I try to slice it, the 'opinions' about computation seem to be restricted to a reductionist view of mathematical base - maybe including some physical terms (entropy? information as 'bit' etc.) as well. No wonder, the List-members are hooked in these domains. I started out with the Latin word-origin: "cum" + "putare" - to THINK WITH... or TOGETHER. to put 2 (or more) ideas together and derive some solution of more than a single line. Of course it can be exploited in math-terms as well and if somebody is anchored in the physical terms, such will surface sooner, or later. Which s=does not mean that the 'concept' of a computation is restricted to such utilitarianism.
I was hoping that some "free" minds may pick up my more extended idea and respond in kind. No such chance. The learned members repeat their usual wordings - no matter what. Stephen started a fresh initiative: *...Not everything. It would embrace the category of emulations, simulations, representations and all other information related aspects of the universe. It is not necessary for this Category to be identified with the physical world*.... but fell back soon, continuing *...Yes, it must be related to the physical but that relation can be a morphism to another Category: that of physical objects, forces, thermodynamics, energy, etc....* I almost cried Heureka!. Those figments are useful aslong as they serve their purpose - to some extent. Not as a 'Brunoish theology' of them all. Just compare our world (?) viewed today with that of how it was viewed millennia ago. Or with the view before 'entropy' was started to expand beyond the 2nd law's natural processes. Or before QM? Who dares to draw conclusions FOREVER? how we will look at the world during the next millennium? As I expressed several times: I appreciate the results of OUR (conventional - reductionst) sciences and technology, but it is an "almost" true wisdom. John Mikes On Wed, Jan 22, 2014 at 5:50 PM, LizR <lizj...@gmail.com> wrote: > On 23 January 2014 03:13, Craig Weinberg <whatsons...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> On Wednesday, January 22, 2014 5:10:34 AM UTC-5, Liz R wrote: >>> >>> Addendum >>> >>> Sorry a wee typo. I meant "*Yet* presumably brain cells, when lumped >>> together into a brain..." >>> >> >> It bugs me that you can't edit after posting on here. I guess every forum >> has its irritating features. >> > > Yes. I tend to his "submit" then read through... > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.