Dear John, Thank you for trying to parse my gobbletygok! Watch the Donald Hoffman talk, then think about what your saying.
http://youtu.be/dqDP34a-epI Are you following my argument that we need a dual pair of Categories, not just one? On Wed, Jan 22, 2014 at 6:37 PM, John Mikes <jami...@gmail.com> wrote: > No matter how I try to slice it, the 'opinions' about computation seem to > be restricted to a reductionist view of mathematical base - maybe including > some physical terms (entropy? information as 'bit' etc.) as well. > No wonder, the List-members are hooked in these domains. > I started out with the Latin word-origin: "cum" + "putare" - to THINK > WITH... or TOGETHER. to put 2 (or more) ideas together and derive some > solution of more than a single line. Of course it can be exploited in > math-terms as well and if somebody is anchored in the physical terms, such > will surface sooner, or later. > Which s=does not mean that the 'concept' of a computation is restricted to > such utilitarianism. > > I was hoping that some "free" minds may pick up my more extended idea and > respond in kind. > No such chance. > The learned members repeat their usual wordings - no matter what. > > Stephen started a fresh initiative: > *...Not everything. It would embrace the category of emulations, > simulations, representations and all other information related aspects of > the universe. It is not necessary for this Category to be identified with > the physical world*.... > but fell back soon, continuing > *...Yes, it must be related to the physical but that relation can be a > morphism to another Category: that of physical objects, forces, > thermodynamics, energy, etc....* > I almost cried Heureka!. > Those figments are useful aslong as they serve their purpose - to some > extent. Not as a 'Brunoish theology' of them all. Just compare our world > (?) viewed today with that of how it was viewed millennia ago. Or with the > view before 'entropy' was started to expand beyond the 2nd law's natural > processes. > Or before QM? > Who dares to draw conclusions FOREVER? how we will look at the world > during the next millennium? > > As I expressed several times: I appreciate the results of OUR > (conventional - reductionst) sciences and technology, but it is an "almost" > true wisdom. > John Mikes > > > > > > On Wed, Jan 22, 2014 at 5:50 PM, LizR <lizj...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> On 23 January 2014 03:13, Craig Weinberg <whatsons...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> On Wednesday, January 22, 2014 5:10:34 AM UTC-5, Liz R wrote: >>>> >>>> Addendum >>>> >>>> Sorry a wee typo. I meant "*Yet* presumably brain cells, when lumped >>>> together into a brain..." >>>> >>> >>> It bugs me that you can't edit after posting on here. I guess every >>> forum has its irritating features. >>> >> >> Yes. I tend to his "submit" then read through... >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Everything List" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> >> To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the > Google Groups "Everything List" group. > To unsubscribe from this topic, visit > https://groups.google.com/d/topic/everything-list/EGO37J5vmrQ/unsubscribe. > To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to > everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > -- Kindest Regards, Stephen Paul King Senior Researcher Mobile: (864) 567-3099 stephe...@provensecure.com http://www.provensecure.us/ “This message (including any attachments) is intended only for the use of the individual or entity to which it is addressed, and may contain information that is non-public, proprietary, privileged, confidential and exempt from disclosure under applicable law or may be constituted as attorney work product. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any use, dissemination, distribution, or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, notify sender immediately and delete this message immediately.” -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
