On 30 January 2014 12:21, Craig Weinberg <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Wednesday, January 29, 2014 6:13:35 PM UTC-5, Liz R wrote: > >> On 30 January 2014 12:09, Craig Weinberg <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> On Wednesday, January 29, 2014 6:01:19 PM UTC-5, Liz R wrote: >>> >>>> On 30 January 2014 11:39, Craig Weinberg <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> On Wednesday, January 29, 2014 5:38:04 PM UTC-5, Liz R wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> On 30 January 2014 11:24, Craig Weinberg <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> On Wednesday, January 29, 2014 1:34:48 PM UTC-5, John Clark wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Sat, Jan 25, 2014 at 9:35 AM, Craig Weinberg <[email protected] >>>>>>>> > wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> > NO ROOM CAN BE CONSCIOUS. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> And we know that because we can say it in all capital letters, or >>>>>>>> possibly from the teachings of two of your favorite subjects, >>>>>>>> astrology and >>>>>>>> numerology. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The all caps were in response to Bruno's all caps, and no, you don't >>>>>>> need astrology and numerology to understand that rooms are not haunted >>>>>>> by >>>>>>> the spirits of system-hood. >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Imagine a small, roughly spherical room made out of a fairly hard >>>>>> material something like limestone. Make a few holes in it, fill it with >>>>>> some goop with the consistency of blancmange, decorate with sense organs >>>>>> and throw in a body. >>>>>> >>>>>> Et voila! >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Voila, a cadaver. >>>>> >>>>> Unless *all *such objects are cadavers, this "disproves" the >>>> statement that *no *room can be conscious. >>>> >>>> (I must admit the idea that "no room can be conscious" seems to demand >>>> qualification...) >>>> >>> >>> All such objects would be cadavers, in the absence of some subjective >>> experience which is being expressed. >>> >> >> What about anaesthesia and dreamless sleep? >> > > Our personal level of awareness is not the totality of the awareness that > our lives consist of. We sleep, but if we have to pee, who wakes us up so > we don't wet the bed? > So all such objects aren't cadavers. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
