On 30 January 2014 12:21, Craig Weinberg <whatsons...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Wednesday, January 29, 2014 6:13:35 PM UTC-5, Liz R wrote: > >> On 30 January 2014 12:09, Craig Weinberg <whats...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> On Wednesday, January 29, 2014 6:01:19 PM UTC-5, Liz R wrote: >>> >>>> On 30 January 2014 11:39, Craig Weinberg <whats...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> On Wednesday, January 29, 2014 5:38:04 PM UTC-5, Liz R wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> On 30 January 2014 11:24, Craig Weinberg <whats...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> On Wednesday, January 29, 2014 1:34:48 PM UTC-5, John Clark wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Sat, Jan 25, 2014 at 9:35 AM, Craig Weinberg <whats...@gmail.com >>>>>>>> > wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> > NO ROOM CAN BE CONSCIOUS. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> And we know that because we can say it in all capital letters, or >>>>>>>> possibly from the teachings of two of your favorite subjects, >>>>>>>> astrology and >>>>>>>> numerology. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The all caps were in response to Bruno's all caps, and no, you don't >>>>>>> need astrology and numerology to understand that rooms are not haunted >>>>>>> by >>>>>>> the spirits of system-hood. >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Imagine a small, roughly spherical room made out of a fairly hard >>>>>> material something like limestone. Make a few holes in it, fill it with >>>>>> some goop with the consistency of blancmange, decorate with sense organs >>>>>> and throw in a body. >>>>>> >>>>>> Et voila! >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Voila, a cadaver. >>>>> >>>>> Unless *all *such objects are cadavers, this "disproves" the >>>> statement that *no *room can be conscious. >>>> >>>> (I must admit the idea that "no room can be conscious" seems to demand >>>> qualification...) >>>> >>> >>> All such objects would be cadavers, in the absence of some subjective >>> experience which is being expressed. >>> >> >> What about anaesthesia and dreamless sleep? >> > > Our personal level of awareness is not the totality of the awareness that > our lives consist of. We sleep, but if we have to pee, who wakes us up so > we don't wet the bed? > So all such objects aren't cadavers. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
