On 10 February 2014 07:56, John Clark <[email protected]> wrote: > On Sun, Feb 9, 2014 at 3:24 AM, Bruno Marchal <[email protected]> wrote: > >> >> >> The invention of language was obviously of great benefit to the >>> species called Homo sapiens, but like all tools it is not perfect and >>> sometimes the brain can waste a great deal of processing power spinning its >>> wheels over questions of words rather than ideas. For example, a recent >>> poll showed that 70% of people in the USA thought that if a dying patient >>> agreed then doctors should be allowed to "end the patient's life by some >>> painless means"; however only 51% thought that doctors should be allowed to >>> help a dying patient who wanted to die "commit suicide". Another example >>> would be those who DON'T believe in a omnipotent omniscient intelligent >>> conscious being who created the universe and is responsible for morality >>> but DO believe in "God". >>> >> >> > What about those who believe, or assume, a god, or a goddess, but >> disbelieve omnipotence, and are agnostic on omniscience? >> > > I suppose a supreme being need not be omnipotent, he or she just needs to > be better than the competition, but there is one thing you can't get > around, a supreme being needs to be A BEING; an Amorphous Vague Fog Of > Bafflegab (AVFOB) is not enough. > > The follow-up to VALIS? :)
I think the difference is that Bruno considers "God" to be whatever is at the end of the causal or logical chain from which our perceived reality arises. Historically this has been the Earth Mother or Sky Father, but there is no reason why it couldn't be the Flying Spaghetti Monster (or mind or maths or matter...) ...whereas John has a (more or less) particular God in mind (Yahweh, Allah, Odin, Ra, Amaterasu etc). I don't know whether this can be settled, preferably without precepts at dawn. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
