On Thu, Feb 13, 2014 at 10:23:14AM -0800, Edgar L. Owen wrote:
> Craig,
> 
> I also suspect Bruno's math skills are superior to mine, but his 
> understanding of the place of math in reality seems pretty deficient, or 
> perhaps just rigid.
> 
> As I've pointed out his 8 steps may well be mathematically consistent but 
> that doesn't mean they have anything to do with the fundamental structure 
> of reality at all. To meaningfully apply a purely mathematical or logical 
> proof to reality, one must establish an actual correspondence of the 
> variables in the proof to actual variables of reality. I don't see Bruno 
> doing that at all.

The strength of Bruno's approach is that that is implicit in the
assumption of COMP. Once you assume that one's consciousness can be
implemented by a computation, then necessarily ontological reality
(whatever that is) can also be implemented by a computation. This is a
simple consequence of the Church thesis.

> 
> There is no way that anything happens in his static Platonia. And there is 
> no method of selecting the structure of our actual universe from what is 
> apparently his all possible universes.
> 
> He told us his theory doesn't predict the fine tuning, as this type of 
> theory must, because the fine tuning is not important in hi view.
> 

It is not important for the UDA. But it is, nevertheless, not
inconsistent with the Anthropic Principle either. Bruno would say it
is necessary for the manifestation of other conciousnesses to us. I
reserve my judgement on this...

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