On Thursday, February 13, 2014 6:05:34 PM UTC-5, Russell Standish wrote:
>
> On Thu, Feb 13, 2014 at 10:23:14AM -0800, Edgar L. Owen wrote: 
> > Craig, 
> > 
> > I also suspect Bruno's math skills are superior to mine, but his 
> > understanding of the place of math in reality seems pretty deficient, or 
> > perhaps just rigid. 
> > 
> > As I've pointed out his 8 steps may well be mathematically consistent 
> but 
> > that doesn't mean they have anything to do with the fundamental 
> structure 
> > of reality at all. To meaningfully apply a purely mathematical or 
> logical 
> > proof to reality, one must establish an actual correspondence of the 
> > variables in the proof to actual variables of reality. I don't see Bruno 
> > doing that at all. 
>
> The strength of Bruno's approach is that that is implicit in the 
> assumption of COMP. Once you assume that one's consciousness can be 
> implemented by a computation, then necessarily ontological reality 
> (whatever that is) can also be implemented by a computation. This is a 
> simple consequence of the Church thesis. 
>

I understand that, but my argument has never been with Bruno's approach to 
Comp, it is with the assumption of Comp itself. I have a different 
understanding of the relation between information and consciousness which 
makes more sense, and it explains why Comp is false, and why it cannot be 
proved false logically.
 

Craig
 

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