On 17 February 2014 06:07, Stathis Papaioannou <[email protected]> wrote:
<snip> > > > > I and I would agree with Stathis - except for the "merely". I think > Bruno > > was right when he observed that "epi" doesn't mean anything in this > context. > > Stathis doesn't think that consciousness is separable from the physics; > it's > > just talking about the same thing at a different level. We don't call > life > > an epiphenomena of biochemistry. And I regard "meaning" in the same > way, or > > as Dennett calls it "the intentional stance". > > I think if I say consciousness is an epiphenomenon of biochemistry I > should also say that life is. Yes, I think that is required for your general position to be coherent. > We don't say that, because while life is > mysterious, it is not quite as mysterious as consciousness, and it > seems to me that much of the philosophical discussion about > consciousness occurs mainly because it seems mysterious. As a person > somewhat familiar with biology I can see how life emerges from > biochemistry, but I can't see how consciousness does in quite the same > way. I must say you're putting rather a lot of weight on "quite" here! > To put it differently, I can't imagine all the biochemistry being > there but life absent, but I can imagine all the biochemistry being > there but consciousness absent (though further reasoning may show that > that to be impossible). But maybe that is just a failure of > imagination. > Maybe. David > > > -- > Stathis Papaioannou > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
