On Mon, Feb 17, 2014 at 05:33:48AM -0800, Edgar L. Owen wrote: > Russell, > > All of science assumes an external reality independent of human > observation.
Who says? I must have been asleep when they announced this in Physics 101! Actually, I'm pretty sure they never did. > Science is what gives us by far our most accurate view of the > universe. So what is your reasoning to reject this fundamental assumption > of science? Science doesn't need it, and as far as I can tell, science is not interested in ontological questions like that. What it does assume is that phenomena is describable in a compressed form, and that predictions are possible using these compressed descriptions. And that's about it - no need to ask what the phenomena being described really is - that sort of talk is relegated to the pub, or to internet discussion fora like this. > > Can you define your "intersubjective reality"? > Does it include all humans? > Does it exclude rats and other non-human life forms? Do you think this > intersubjective reality actually somehow creates the non-human or > non-living universe? Did it create the stars and galaxies, or are they only > figments of our collective consciousness? You and I share an intersubjective reality. Liz & I share another one, that is almost, but not quite, the same. The rat and I share another one, but it is rather different, and more basic. A being in a completely different universe of the multiverse shares just the Schroedinger equation. And so on.. I don't understand your questions about "creation" here. -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Prof Russell Standish Phone 0425 253119 (mobile) Principal, High Performance Coders Visiting Professor of Mathematics [email protected] University of New South Wales http://www.hpcoders.com.au ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
