On 15 Feb 2014, at 03:09, meekerdb wrote:

On 2/14/2014 4:24 PM, Kim Jones wrote:

On 14 Feb 2014, at 3:42 pm, Russell Standish <[email protected]> wrote:

What about the CMBR? When it was created there were (presumably) no
observers in existence in the universe. Are you saying it wouldn't exist if we hadn't evolved to detect it (e.g. if humans hadn't evolved, or if we had
never invented radio telescopes) ?

Yes - exactly.



A direct consequence of The Reversal. First comes Mind. Physics and matter and the 3D holographic farmyard are a long way down the road. I hope no one is assuming that it requires something as weird as a "human" to implement consciousness. Something as basic as a Boltzmann brain would be in principle, instantly possible in any universe, surely.


Of course Boltzmann brains are notoriously transient, so we're to think of the universe (or at least pieces of past light cones) blinking in and out of existence. Or does that take a Boltzmann brain plus optic nerves and eyes and a Boltzmann telescope?

Yes, not sure why a Boltzmann brain can be said to be basic. Just a brain, or any computer, or any relative universal will do. A Boltzmann brain do with a probability near to 0 what UD, or arithmetic do with a probability one.

BTW, can someone refer to a paper given a reasonably serious definition of a Boltzmann brain?

Bruno



Brent

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