On Thu, Feb 27, 2014 at 05:01:51PM -0500, [email protected] wrote: > Not to be a dick, but is not "information" or "data" perforations, and pulses, in mater and energy? This is how we recognize information from background noise, correct? Is there a third state of reality that is not matter or energy? >
Only when interpreted by an observer. An electrical circuit has only voltages and currents, not bits. To an observer, a voltage on a data line might be interpreted as 1 if it is greater than 3V, and zero if it is less than 1V. In between those two thresholds, the voltage might be determinate, but the information is not. >>The "third state", as you call it, is a semantically different picture where things are described in terms of whether some physical state is the same as, or different from, some other physical state, according to the interpretation of an observer. From that, comes bits, and all the other information-based quantities. Perhaps one could say it is a meta-system that exists upon an underlying system (more like a truly vast assemblage of such discreet systems). The information exists only for those observers able to interpret the meaning of the current state of this set of nodes comprising the system. An observer who ignored, or was ignorant of the "meaning" encoded by the pattern would perceive no information. Only the sub-set of observers who could interpret the meta-significance of the particular ordering and sequence of states would be able to access this meta-system existing on top of a (potentially dynamic) pattern of states encoded in some underlying system. Chris -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Prof Russell Standish Phone 0425 253119 (mobile) Principal, High Performance Coders Visiting Professor of Mathematics [email protected] University of New South Wales http://www.hpcoders.com.au ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
