Spud, Based on a computational universe all things are just information states. Thus computational changes to any information state constitutes a generic experience (what I call an Xperience). Thus any information state is in effect a generic observer.
This is a neat and useful definition because then human observers are seen as just special cases of a universal phenomenon and we neatly incorporate observers as an essential aspect of reality. We can then even view the universe as consisting of Xperience only. Edgar On Friday, February 28, 2014 10:51:00 AM UTC-5, [email protected] wrote: > > Ok, Thanks. We're back to the Observer again, where all things are decided > at the quantum. From here on the questions tumble forth as a cascade, on > whether the Observer is conscious, who is the Observer, what is the > Observer? > -----Original Message----- > From: Russell Standish <[email protected] <javascript:>> > To: everything-list <[email protected] <javascript:>> > Sent: Thu, Feb 27, 2014 5:15 pm > Subject: Re: Is information physical? > > On Thu, Feb 27, 2014 at 05:01:51PM -0500, [email protected] <javascript:> > wrote: > > Not to be a dick, but is not "information" or "data" perforations, and > > pulses, > in mater and energy? This is how we recognize information from background > noise, > correct? Is there a third state of reality that is not matter or energy? > > > > Only when interpreted by an observer. An electrical circuit has only > voltages and currents, not bits. To an observer, a voltage on a data > line might be interpreted as 1 if it is greater than 3V, and zero if > it is less than 1V. In between those two thresholds, the voltage might > be determinate, but the information is not. > > The "third state", as you call it, is a semantically different picture > where things are described in terms of whether some physical state is > the same as, or different from, some other physical state, according to > the interpretation of an observer. From that, comes bits, and all the > other information-based quantities. > > -- > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Prof Russell Standish Phone 0425 253119 (mobile) > Principal, High Performance Coders > Visiting Professor of Mathematics [email protected] <javascript:> > University of New South Wales http://www.hpcoders.com.au > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email > to [email protected] <javascript:>. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected] > <javascript:>. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
