Ok, Thanks. We're back to the Observer again, where all things are decided at 
the quantum. From here on the questions tumble forth as a cascade, on whether 
the Observer is conscious, who is the Observer, what is the Observer? 


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From: Russell Standish <li...@hpcoders.com.au>
To: everything-list <everything-list@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Thu, Feb 27, 2014 5:15 pm
Subject: Re: Is information physical?


On Thu, Feb 27, 2014 at 05:01:51PM -0500, spudboy...@aol.com wrote:
> Not to be a dick, but is not "information" or "data" perforations, and 
> pulses, 
in mater and energy? This is how we recognize information from background 
noise, 
correct? Is there a third state of reality that is not matter or energy?
> 

Only when interpreted by an observer. An electrical circuit has only
voltages and currents, not bits. To an observer, a voltage on a data
line might be interpreted as 1 if it is greater than 3V, and zero if
it is less than 1V. In between those two thresholds, the voltage might
be determinate, but the information is not.

The "third state", as you call it, is a semantically different picture
where things are described in terms of whether some physical state is
the same as, or different from, some other physical state, according to
the interpretation of an observer. From that, comes bits, and all the
other information-based quantities.

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