On 3/18/2014 4:12 PM, LizR wrote:
On 19 March 2014 08:46, <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
Breaking your ideas down, I do still hold that the figure cited as 10,000 is
imprecise. It seems as a selling point. But with a focus on accurate
measures, and I
say that whats been presented is not accurate. However, it could even be
worse than
10,000. As I have tried to get environmentalists here, to cite ideas on
remediation,
sans government control. Why? Because then it becomes an excuse to rule us
more and
more, on the pretense of fixing a problem.
It's not an *excuse* nor a *pretense* because there is no plausible way that the problem
will be addressed without government action. When there is an air pollutant that it costs
money to avoid or remove (like automobile exhaust pollutants) it is only a *disadvantage*
to individuals and enterprises to spend their money to clean up. But the government can
provide incentives to make cleaner energy production cheaper. This is only forcing costs
that had been externalized to be internalized.
There is also the development of technologies which are too expensive, too riskly, or too
likely to be stopped by litigation for any private organization to develop. LFTRs are the
obvious example, but also various CO2 sequestering schemes and insolation reduction by
aerosols.
So, I try to focus on technology and ask "what do you want to do, what
technology?"
I get suspicious when, if I receive any response at all, its vague, and
indistinct.
I would fix issues with tech,
But technology development takes money and sometimes protection.
rather than having bureaucratic fascists rule us all, Few on this list
agree with
this approach.
Few agree with your ridiculous equation of all bureaucrats with fascists and all
government programs with communism.
They want everything under government control, as long as they agree with
the
dictator. When it becomes apparent that people are after the control of
others, it
needs to be resisted. The market is closer to human freedom then government
rule,
but it is not to be trusted completely. Again, technology first please,
The market means you can have as much freedom as you can pay for.
Brent
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