I am pragmatic enough to see that if government worked best on tackling a problem, I would endorse it. There does seem to be a rule of elites, a ruling class, in effect, worldwide, that consists of billionaires, their politicians, and academics, media, union leaders, and their choices in governance, seem off the mark. These seems especially true, concerning the environment, energy (closely related) and economics. Hence, unless one is very rich, or directly benefits from the beneficence of the billionaires and the paid political agents, what's one to do? This is why I ask for technical solutions to things like overpopulation, resource depletion, AGW, and what have you. The elites seem more focused on corralling the serfs, who put such a strain on resources, than shooting for workarounds or even trade offs. The NASA proclamation of a kind of global communism, for want of a better word, is an example of corralling the serfs-for their own good. Very weird.
-----Original Message----- From: meekerdb <[email protected]> To: everything-list <[email protected]> Sent: Tue, Mar 18, 2014 8:27 pm Subject: Re: The situation at Fukushima appears to be deteriorating On 3/18/2014 4:12 PM, LizR wrote: On 19 March 2014 08:46, <[email protected]> wrote: Breaking your ideas down, I do still hold that the figure cited as 10,000 is imprecise. It seems as a selling point. But with a focus on accurate measures, and I say that whats been presented is not accurate. However, it could even be worse than 10,000. As I have tried to get environmentalists here, to cite ideas on remediation, sans government control. Why? Because then it becomes an excuse to rule us more and more, on the pretense of fixing a problem. It's not an *excuse* nor a *pretense* because there is no plausible way that the problem will be addressed without government action. When there is an air pollutant that it costs money to avoid or remove (like automobile exhaust pollutants) it is only a *disadvantage* to individuals and enterprises to spend their money to clean up. But the government can provide incentives to make cleaner energy production cheaper. This is only forcing costs that had been externalized to be internalized. There is also the development of technologies which are too expensive, too riskly, or too likely to be stopped by litigation for any private organization to develop. LFTRs are the obvious example, but also various CO2 sequestering schemes and insolation reduction by aerosols. So, I try to focus on technology and ask "what do you want to do, what technology?" I get suspicious when, if I receive any response at all, its vague, and indistinct. I would fix issues with tech, But technology development takes money and sometimes protection. rather than having bureaucratic fascists rule us all, Few on this list agree with this approach. Few agree with your ridiculous equation of all bureaucrats with fascists and all government programs with communism. They want everything under government control, as long as they agree with the dictator. When it becomes apparent that people are after the control of others, it needs to be resisted. The market is closer to human freedom then government rule, but it is not to be trusted completely. Again, technology first please, The market means you can have as much freedom as you can pay for. Brent -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
