On Wed, Mar 12, 2014 at 11:40 AM, Chris de Morsella
<[email protected]>wrote:

>
>
>> >> 66 million years ago 2/3 of all species, not individual animals but
>> entire species, became extinct quite literally overnight, and 252 million
>> years ago it was even worse, the extinction rate was 90%.  What we're
>> experiencing now is not even a burp.
>>
>
>
> You do not know that those extinction events happened overnight - in fact
> you are wrong on that. The asteroid may have impacted off of the Yucatan
> overnight, but it could have taken decades and even hundreds of years to
> play out,
>

Worldwide it was dark as pitch for at least a year after the asteroid hit
and photosynthesis, the engine room of the entire ecology, was completely
shut down during that time; the surprising thing is that only 2/3 of all
species went extinct. And I made a error in the above, the correct figure
for the Permian extinction 252 million years ago is not 90%, it's closer to
96%.

 > the current rate of species extinction - going on right now in our
> contemporary times - is around  10,000 times the average background rate
> [...] the data supports the claim that the current extinction rate is
> around 10,000 times the usual levels
>

I quote from Wikipedia:

"The fact that we do not currently know the total number of species, in the
past nor the present, makes it very difficult to accurately calculate the
non-anthropogenically influenced extinction rates.  As a rate, it is
essential to know not just the number of extinctions, but also the number
of non-extinctions. This fact, coupled with the fact that the rates do not
remain constant, significantly reduces accuracy in estimates of the normal
rate of extinctions."

>
> >> It's no great mystery why some animals become extinct today, it's
>> because 7 billion large mammals of the exact same species have spread from
>> the pole to the equator, and that has never happened before. It would have
>> been amazing if a event like that didn't cause a few animals to join the
>> 99.9% that have already gone extinct in the last 3 billion years.
>>
> > It is not a few animals John--despite what you choose to believe - we
> humans have triggered and are the cause of what is the beginning stages of
> a great extinction event.
>
I don't think so but even if you're right do you have a solution that
doesn't involve the extinction or at least a major culling of my very
favorite animal? If so let's hear it.

  John K Clark

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