On Thu, Apr 10, 2014 at 4:37 AM, Stephen Paul King < stephe...@provensecure.com> wrote:
> Read Corona's post carefully. > I did, and I find his general ideas interesting and worth considering. I don't quire agree that space exploration cannot compete with religion. When I was growing up, I was forced to go to catholic sunday school, and at the same time I was obsessed with space exploration. The former just bore me to tears, while the second gave me feelings of human transcendence. This video still works better for me than all of the religious attempts at showing the divine: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OnoNITE-CLc It is sad that we are currently regressing in many ways. We lost the ability to do what that video shows, when we should be doing even more amazing things, and eventually starting colonising other worlds. We are also regressing in social ways, with the return of police states in the west and so on. I don't think that's a coincidence. I hope it's a bump in the road. On the other hand, we expanded inwards with the Internet. I believe we still just saw the beginning of the transformative power of the Internet and the things it will enable. The ones in power sense this too, and they are fighting it. At the moment we seem to be heading in the direction of some cyberpunk dystopia. But back to the gay issue. If the assumption is that "gay promotion" is part of a strategy to reduce the population, then that's just silly. If anything, allowing gays to marry and be parents and adopt is only increasing the carrying capacity of our environment. Telmo. > > > On Wed, Apr 9, 2014 at 7:57 PM, Telmo Menezes <te...@telmomenezes.com>wrote: > >> >> >> >> On Thu, Apr 10, 2014 at 1:47 AM, Stephen Paul King < >> stephe...@provensecure.com> wrote: >> >>> Dear Telmo, >>> >>> It isn't moralism if it has a measure that can be objectively defined. >>> >> >> Hi Stephan, >> >> Could you tell me what measure you are referring to? >> >> >>> >>> >>> On Wed, Apr 9, 2014 at 6:48 PM, Telmo Menezes <te...@telmomenezes.com>wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Wed, Apr 9, 2014 at 9:16 PM, Alberto G. Corona >>>> <agocor...@gmail.com>wrote: >>>> >>>>> >>>>>>> On 7 April 2014 15:47, Stephen Paul King < >>>>>>> stephe...@provensecure.com> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Hi Liz, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Why is there no interest in developing tech to get us off the >>>>>>>> planet? Why is there a retreat into a bunker mentality? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>> The reason why the UN promotes Global Warming+ abortion+ feminism+ >>>>> Gay promotion instead of international collaboration for space >>>>> exploration >>>>> and expansion has some reasons: >>>>> >>>> >>>> Come on man, you say interesting things but then you get stuck in weird >>>> religious moralism. What does "gay promotion" even mean? People can't >>>> change their sexual orientation. It's not like you can make some ads or >>>> have celebrity endorsements and the kids will be all "ohh cool, I'm going >>>> to be gay!". I think what's happening here is that we are finally getting >>>> rid of gay repression. There's not going to be a different percentage of >>>> gay people one way or the other, just less people leading miserable lives >>>> for no good reason. >>>> >>>> >>>>> >>>>> first: any menace related with resources and population is easier to >>>>> sell I will not name Hitler, but they are instinctive concerns since we >>>>> were stone age hunter gatherers. The hunter gatherers were after wild >>>>> animals and wild plants. They did not produced animals and plants as we >>>>> produce now. So their primitive mind of "limited resources" is in the >>>>> modern man, despite our hability to reproduce and substitute resources >>>>> with >>>>> our knowledge. >>>>> >>>>> 30.000 years ago, my province was inhabited with 3000 people that >>>>> depleted complely the resources and had to move to another place every >>>>> year. Now we are 3.000.000 in the same area, mostly unhabited still. An >>>>> yet >>>>> we live better, there are probably more wild animals and more forest. >>>>> >>>>> But still there are stone-age minded people that ate human beings and >>>>> "want to save the planet". >>>>> >>>>> second: space exploration can not qualify for a religion, at least, >>>>> not as a totalitarian religion. The Cult to the earth and human >>>>> sacrifices >>>>> will ever qualify since it is the most primitive religion. Leaders want >>>>> commited people and this inevitably demand sacrifices, due to the nature >>>>> of >>>>> beings with incomplete information. 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