Hopefully this is a quick response from me.In no particular order. 
I will suggest that perhaps Lenin and Trosky might have been exactly as 
bloodthirsty as Stalin.

On abortion, it makes me wonder about a woman's character, if she use's 
abortion as a means of entrapment.

On Jesus, I don't worry about him, if he is not coming back. Coming back IS the 
Christian message. 

On corporations, please know that they fund the Marxist parties world-wide. 
Crony capitalism = Corporatism=
Neo-Marxism, Neo-Stalinism, Progressivism. Weird but true. It's not just crusty 
old conservatives anymore. 

National power is good, except when it's not. Different people's can work 
together cooperatively, without rescinding their national rights. On medicine, 
space, energy, all that. The UN sucks because it's the world's worst people. A 
replacement org would be nice. Why should Kiwi's be under the boots of Yanks, 
for instance?

Mao, Stalin, and the rest promised changed and the proletariat believed it 
because the leaders told them what they wanted to hear. The same thing works 
with used car sales persons. Buyer beware please.





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From: LizR <[email protected]>
To: everything-list <[email protected]>
Sent: Thu, Apr 10, 2014 8:34 pm
Subject: Re: Climate models



On 11 April 2014 06:45,  <[email protected]> wrote:

 
Feminism I am ok with because equal pay for equal work. As an element of 
Marxism it sucks, but otherwise its good.



Actually Marxism is about equal pay for equal work, too.


 
Abortions are tricky for me, a subject. It's easy to make generalizations if we 
are not the pregnant ones. wink.



Yes, well said. 


 
Homosexuality isn't doomed, unless its the New Testament Jesus purging the 
sinners, and I don't know enough NT to know if this is what Revelations really 
says. Homosexuality seems to be a part of nature, and so on. 



I dunno, Jesus kissed Judas if I remember correctly, or was it the other way 
around? Probably no tongues though.


 
Nationalism is ok, but people still have to work together to make success on 
many big troubles. On the other hand the idea that the UN should rule things is 
pathological, because it renders national power to the most corrupt, hateful, 
and murderous, people that now exist in the world today. 



So who's that, then? The Taliban? Al Qaeada? The US government? The CEOs of 
faceless multinational corporations?


 
Change? Well Stalin and Mao promised and delivered change, and so did Adolf. 
Change is not always a great, good, thing, especially when peddled by 
progressives as a sales pitch aka propaganda. It's a means of calling 
dictatorship, which is something quite bad, good. 


Stalin, Mao and Hitler may have promised change, but they gave us the same 
boring old shite we've been getting since the year dot - charismatic 
psychopathic leaders starting their own cult-of-personality pseudo-religions. 
No change there, we've been doing it for millennia.


I suppose it's possible that Lenin, Trosky and co might have achieved some sort 
of change if the rest of the world hadn't ganged up on them, but their vision 
was well and truly scuppered by the nations around them who were utterly 
terrified that their workers might also demand fair pay, or something equally 
reprehensible. Stalin just swanned into the resulting mess and took over.




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