Homosexuality isn't doomed, unless its the New Testament Jesus
purging the sinners, and I don't know enough NT to know if this is
what Revelations really says. Homosexuality seems to be a part of
nature, and so on.
Nationalism is ok, but people still have to work together to make
success on many big troubles. On the other hand the idea that the UN
should rule things is pathological, because it renders national
power to the most corrupt, hateful, and murderous, people that now
exist in the world today.
Change? Well Stalin and Mao promised and delivered change, and so
did Adolf. Change is not always a great, good, thing, especially
when peddled by progressives as a sales pitch aka propaganda. It's a
means of calling dictatorship, which is something quite bad, good.
Cheers!
- TOO BAD FOR SPACE TRAVEL, YOU KILLED IT YOU IDIOTS! (Elon Musk is
either devil or saint... no compromises here!)
- DAMNED FEMINISTS! WOMEN CAN DO NOTHING WITHOUT MEN!
- STUPID ABORTIONS!
- HOLY MATRIMONY, SO HOMOSEXUALITY IS DOOMED!
- LET NATIONALISM RISE AGAIN AS OUR ONLY HOPE (as if it doesn't show
its tedious, harmful face on a daily basis)
- F*** (ANYBODY THAT IS FOR) CHANGE! Especially through space
travel... ;-)
Yes, it could be some twisted sense of humor.
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From: Platonist Guitar Cowboy <[email protected]>
To: everything-list <[email protected]>
Sent: Thu, Apr 10, 2014 11:53 am
Subject: Re: Climate models
On Thu, Apr 10, 2014 at 5:10 PM, Alberto G. Corona <[email protected]
> wrote:
By the way, because it seems that you are interested, rejection of
gays by men will never ever change. There are compelling
evolitionary reasons. If any, the current promotion of "gay rights"
will exacerbate true homophoby in the medium- long term. In the same
way that feminism is increasing the violence against women.
Alberto loves giving everybody here psychology lessons that are
funny. But what is the psychological profile of somebody who reads
some climate banter/debate and goes:
- TOO BAD FOR SPACE TRAVEL, YOU KILLED IT YOU IDIOTS! (Elon Musk is
either devil or saint... no compromises here!)
- DAMNED FEMINISTS! WOMEN CAN DO NOTHING WITHOUT MEN!
- STUPID ABORTIONS!
- HOLY MATRIMONY, SO HOMOSEXUALITY IS DOOMED!
- LET NATIONALISM RISE AGAIN AS OUR ONLY HOPE (as if it doesn't show
its tedious, harmful face on a daily basis)
- F*** (ANYBODY THAT IS FOR) CHANGE! Especially through space
travel... ;-)
Yes, it could be some twisted sense of humor.
The space travel contradiction is funnily stupid, yes, but istm Al's
comedic writing needs some practice, more punchlines, and technique.
Same for Steven's philosophy these days. Whatever guys, this is no
discussion, not effective or even entertaining provocation, just
transparent dullness. PGC
2014-04-10 16:59 GMT+02:00 Alberto G. Corona <[email protected]>:
sex orientation can not be changed, neither a matrimony can be other
than a man and a woman, neither climate can be changed by little
ants like us, neither internationalism can be a genuine feeling,
neither supranational identities can be fabricated, neither woman
can live without depending on ideas and societies essentially made
by men. Neither abortion can be promoted without immense pain in
women for the assassination of his child.
But that does not mean that a bunch of autonsanctified international
delinquents can not make a living from idiots that believe in the
idea that "things are gonna change" "another world is possible" and
"a catastrophe is coming and we will not survive if the world do not
do X" where X is invariably something very painful that demand a lot
of concentrated power in a central elite.
In the same way that 80 years of mass killings demonstrated that an
economy can not be centrally planified, we are gonna suffer another
cycle of wrong ideas thanks to the new generation of idiots and
their shepherds
2014-04-10 12:51 GMT+02:00 Telmo Menezes <[email protected]>:
On Thu, Apr 10, 2014 at 4:37 AM, Stephen Paul King <[email protected]
> wrote:
Read Corona's post carefully.
I did, and I find his general ideas interesting and worth
considering. I don't quire agree that space exploration cannot
compete with religion. When I was growing up, I was forced to go to
catholic sunday school, and at the same time I was obsessed with
space exploration. The former just bore me to tears, while the
second gave me feelings of human transcendence. This video still
works better for me than all of the religious attempts at showing
the divine:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OnoNITE-CLc
It is sad that we are currently regressing in many ways. We lost the
ability to do what that video shows, when we should be doing even
more amazing things, and eventually starting colonising other
worlds. We are also regressing in social ways, with the return of
police states in the west and so on. I don't think that's a
coincidence. I hope it's a bump in the road.
On the other hand, we expanded inwards with the Internet. I believe
we still just saw the beginning of the transformative power of the
Internet and the things it will enable. The ones in power sense this
too, and they are fighting it. At the moment we seem to be heading
in the direction of some cyberpunk dystopia.
But back to the gay issue. If the assumption is that "gay promotion"
is part of a strategy to reduce the population, then that's just
silly. If anything, allowing gays to marry and be parents and adopt
is only increasing the carrying capacity of our environment.
Telmo.
On Wed, Apr 9, 2014 at 7:57 PM, Telmo Menezes
<[email protected]> wrote:
On Thu, Apr 10, 2014 at 1:47 AM, Stephen Paul King <[email protected]
> wrote:
Dear Telmo,
It isn't moralism if it has a measure that can be objectively
defined.
Hi Stephan,
Could you tell me what measure you are referring to?
On Wed, Apr 9, 2014 at 6:48 PM, Telmo Menezes
<[email protected]> wrote:
On Wed, Apr 9, 2014 at 9:16 PM, Alberto G. Corona
<[email protected]> wrote:
On 7 April 2014 15:47, Stephen Paul King
<[email protected]> wrote:
Hi Liz,
Why is there no interest in developing tech to get us off the
planet? Why is there a retreat into a bunker mentality?
The reason why the UN promotes Global Warming+ abortion+ feminism+
Gay promotion instead of international collaboration for space
exploration and expansion has some reasons:
Come on man, you say interesting things but then you get stuck in
weird religious moralism. What does "gay promotion" even mean?
People can't change their sexual orientation. It's not like you can
make some ads or have celebrity endorsements and the kids will be
all "ohh cool, I'm going to be gay!". I think what's happening here
is that we are finally getting rid of gay repression. There's not
going to be a different percentage of gay people one way or the
other, just less people leading miserable lives for no good reason.
first: any menace related with resources and population is easier
to sell I will not name Hitler, but they are instinctive concerns
since we were stone age hunter gatherers. The hunter gatherers were
after wild animals and wild plants. They did not produced animals
and plants as we produce now. So their primitive mind of "limited
resources" is in the modern man, despite our hability to reproduce
and substitute resources with our knowledge.
30.000 years ago, my province was inhabited with 3000 people that
depleted complely the resources and had to move to another place
every year. Now we are 3.000.000 in the same area, mostly unhabited
still. An yet we live better, there are probably more wild animals
and more forest.
But still there are stone-age minded people that ate human beings
and "want to save the planet".
second: space exploration can not qualify for a religion, at least,
not as a totalitarian religion. The Cult to the earth and human
sacrifices will ever qualify since it is the most primitive
religion. Leaders want commited people and this inevitably demand
sacrifices, due to the nature of beings with incomplete information.
I explained it in this thread as well as others in this group.
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