On 30 Apr 2014, at 05:10, 'Chris de Morsella' via Everything List wrote:



From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected] ] On Behalf Of meekerdb

On 4/29/2014 1:18 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:

If my consciousness can survive a physical digital substitution, then it survives an arithmetical digital substitution, and what we call the moon has to be recovered as a stable pattern emerging from an infinity of computations in arithmetic, and cannot be related from anything else.

The point is that "what we call the Moon"  IS the Moon.

IMO - both points of view, are valid though. You are correctly equating the definition or label of the moon with the qualia - i.e. the moon experience.

He was assuming we were awake. In my dreams, what I call the moon a planet made of cheese. Is *that* the moon?



It seems to me that Bruno was describing a hypothesized means by which that which "we call the moon" becomes manifest as the qualia we experience. That this qualia emerges through a dynamic computational process.

Well, hopefully for computationalism.

Bruno


Chris

Brent


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