I think your graph is very good. You are right about the inverse square law. I am not sure about the screening idea.
I have not attempted to do a detailed math analysis of all or the forces acting in any of these particles other than the entron. I have shown the math to prove for the entron that two tronnies traveling on opposite sides of a circle at pi/2 times the speed of light is stable because the attractive and repulsive integrated forces in the diametrical direction exactly cancel. I have also constructed physical models of the electron, the positron and the proton (the same model can be used for all of them, (I used Tinker Toys). I have measured the distances between the charged particles and as far as I can tell the Coulomb forces, that I calculate using charges of e and the measured distances, all seem to cancel. What I need is someone who can do a precise computer analysis of all of these forces, distances and speeds to confirm that my models are stable. I have friends who could prepare these models, but I have not yet been able to convince any of them to do it. No one has proven that my models are not stable. So I know the entron is stable. I know there is an entron in every photon. I know that electrons and positrons are made from the same things that photons are made from. (Photons combine to make electrons and positrons. Electrons and positrons combine to make photons; therefore, I conclude that electrons positrons and photons must be made from the same things.) I admit that proof that the entron is stable does not automatically mean the electron is stable. However, we know that the electron is stable. In addition in my models of the electron the tronnies are traveling in a circle at pi/2 times the speed of light just like in the entron. I believe the strong force that holds nuclei together is the Coulomb force. I studied nuclear engineering before they taught quarks and gluons. I don't think they exist. If you have three positively particles, each having a large positive charge located at its center and a smaller negative charge surrounding the positive charge. I am pretty certain that you could assemble the three positively charged particles so that the forces are in equilibrium. (That is why I like your graph.) This is the nucleus of carbon-12. Two together is unstable. This is beryllium-8 with a half-life of 7 X 10-17 seconds! John R. -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Russell Standish Sent: Wednesday, May 14, 2014 6:04 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: TRONNIES On Wed, May 14, 2014 at 09:47:35AM -0700, John Ross wrote: > Attached is the section of my book that describes the structure of the > alpha particle. > > John R. > As Liz said, there's no detail or explanation here. We know that Coulomb forces follow the inverse square law, right? I really don't know what you accept or reject from conventional physics, so tell me if I guess your assumptions incorrectly. What you describe sounds a bit like the charge screening effect behind the van der Waals force, which is an attractive force at large distance between neutral particles (atoms in this case), but repulsive at short range due to the internal charge structure of the particles. However, your potential for the alpha particle is way more complex - it is repulsive at short and long distance, and attractive at intermediate distances. The potential must look something like (excuse the ASCII art): \ _ \ / \ \ / -.... -------------------------- \ / - Where are your calculations showing that your configuration of particles produces this potential? BTW - the strong force is not "magical" in the standard model. It is caused by the exchange of particles called gluons between quark pairs. The mechanism is well understood, and accords with experimental data very well. What seems magical is how you get an attractive component to the screened potential at intermediate ranges from your model. Cheers -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Prof Russell Standish Phone 0425 253119 (mobile) Principal, High Performance Coders Visiting Professor of Mathematics [email protected] University of New South Wales http://www.hpcoders.com.au Latest project: The Amoeba's Secret (http://www.hpcoders.com.au/AmoebasSecret.html) ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. 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