On 5/27/2014 7:36 PM, LizR wrote:
On 28 May 2014 14:12, <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

    On Wednesday, May 28, 2014 2:24:39 AM UTC+1, Liz R wrote:

        As far as I can see Bruno has a logical argument which happens to segue 
into a
        theory of physics. To disprove it, one merely needs to show that either 
his
        premises or his argument is wrong...


    I don't agree with you about that, but for point of order, I haven't gone 
down that
    road anyway. He's wrong about falsification. I did try to drop it. I shall 
probably
    try again.

Bruno may well be wrong about falsification. I haven't tried to follow the arguments you and he have had on the subject, or not very much. I know Bruno has said he does have a theory of everything, which is subject to falsification... which it seems to me is an awful lot to derive from the idea that consciousness arises from computation

I think the more crucial step is arguing that computation (and therefore consciousness) can exist without physics. That physical instantiation is dispensable.

Brent

... but I guess some relatively simple idea can sometimes lead to a huge theory ... maybe when (or if) I get to grips with the MGA and the logic involved in deriving some features of physics from comp, I might have something more sensible to say on the matter,

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