On 04 Jun 2014, at 13:36, meekerdb wrote:

On 6/4/2014 12:14 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
On 04 Jun 2014, at 00:40, spudboy100 via Everything List wrote:

No family, then it depends on the nature of the crime. Sparing a killer for a price? This reminds me of why the US doesn't have race riots anymore, like the LA Rodney King riots. Most often, there are "settlements" as when police do unlawful killings, because the family opts for the settlement. I am feeling that those nation states that do not have death penalties, are opting, as a cultural norm, Out of a sense of sqeamishness, which is understandable, rather than real justice or mercy. "well, if we just don't have the death penalty, we won't have to think about the victim."

Death penalty does not make sense. I can understand personal individual revenge, and could acquit a parent killing the one who has been violent with his/her children, but I can't swallow the idea that a state coldly kill someone. This is close to nonsense and barbary. It does not deter people to kill,

It has it's historical basis in deterring revenge killings. The state forbade revenge killing, and it order to make that palatable to the families of persons murdered it was necessary to impose the death penalty as judicial punishment. Having the state kill someone coldly, meaning with deliberation and in accordance with laws and evidence is certainly preferable to family members taking revenge based on snap judgements blinded by emotion.


That makes sense. OK. Good pragmatic point ... for some transition toward a less barbarian solution (imo).

Bruno




Brent

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