On 4 June 2014 23:13, Bruno Marchal <[email protected]> wrote:

> On 04 Jun 2014, at 11:30, LizR wrote:
>
> Maybe I misunderstood what you meant. You said
>
>  Countries with death penalty have usually more homicides than the others.
>>> Well, that's my opinion.
>>
>> So I thought it was your opinion that countries with the death penalty
> have more murders.
>
> Well, yes. (If only the state murders), but OK, I might revised my
> opinion, ... or question (like often) wikipedia sources. The statistics I
> read were concerning only the leading economic countries, and well, this
> looks to be the case.
>

OK, could you show me the statistics? I find this an interesting subject,
and my natural inclination would be to think that countries with the death
penalty have more murders, for various reasons (desensitisation, the
"nothing more to lose" effect - another 30 years in prison is more of a
deterent than being killed again, etc)

>
> Anyway, just for the question of death penalty, no statistics could change
> my mind. We just don't kill people (unless legitimate defense). That is not
> justice. It is called "justice expeditive" in French. It is a parody of
> justice.
>

I agree with you about this, of course, as my earlier posts show.


> Of course the relation with death are highly cultural, and hard to change.
>
> Bruno
>
> *If you kill one person you are a murderer,*
> *If you kill one thousand persons, you are a hero,*
> *If you kill all persons, you are a god.*
> *(Edmond Rostand, from memory)*
>
> One death is a tragedy, a million is a statistic -- you know who.

>
>

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