On 7 June 2014 13:20, Kim Jones <[email protected]> wrote:

> On 7 Jun 2014, at 10:46 am, LizR <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> On 6 June 2014 23:46, Kim Jones <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> On 6 Jun 2014, at 7:41 pm, LizR <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> On 6 June 2014 19:39, Kim Jones <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> On 6 Jun 2014, at 7:15 am, LizR <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>> On 5 June 2014 22:09, Kim Jones <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> > On 5 Jun 2014, at 12:28 pm, LizR <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> > Anyway, the Standard Model of cosmology says it got so big due to
>>>> inflation followed by the big bang.
>>>>
>>>> Ummmm......following the big bang
>>>>
>>>> That depends if you take the big bang to mean the initial hypothetical
>>> singularity (which doesn't occur in eternal inflation) or the fireball that
>>> starts when inflation ends and ends when "recombination" occurs. I
>>> generally take the BB to include at least "the first 3 minutes", which puts
>>> it (or 99.9999999999999999999999...% of it) post-inflation.
>>>
>>> OK - thank you for that amazing clarification. I don't know what I take
>>> the big bang to mean. I think I probably deep down agree with Fred Hoyle
>>> who invented the term for sarcastic reasons in the first place. Why do we
>>> "need" a big bang at all? Why can't inflation account for the entire
>>> process?
>>>
>>> I'm not sure if you're being sacastic or not, but if you're going to
>> nitpick, I feel that I have to at least attempt to clarify why I said what
>> I said. Yes, I admit that I have taken the Big Bang to mean the quark soup
>> / plasma that followed inflation, and I even thought that was what most
>> people thought of as the BB. So sue me.
>>
>>
>> Why do you feel I am being sarcastic? I thought what you wrote was
>> amazing so I said so. Is it actually possible to deliver someone an honest
>> compliment around here or is having a siege mentality mandatory?
>>
>
> Sorry. It was just that you started by disagreeing with me so I wasn't
> sure if you really thought it was amazing. But since you did - thank you.
>
> I actually thought that it was a typo you made but was amazed to see that
> you wrote what you meant. In the explanatory process you taught me
> something that excited me which is why I thought I had to tell you how
> amazing what you wrote was.
>
> Well, thank you again. As a - I like to think - budding writer, it is my
belief that I should put as much thought into everything I write as I would
into a poem, novel etc. Not that I always live up to that, especially when
in a rush.

And I still think you are right about the BB not really existing, and that
Hoyle had the right idea.

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