> On 7 Jun 2014, at 2:55 pm, Richard Ruquist <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> Kim says: Every person carries a unique perspective, their 1p perception of
> "reality". This is the main reason I go with comp; it's a vaccine as Bruno
> says, agsinst the elimination of the person. Indeed, if comp is true, persons
> are the only things that are the really real part of reality.
>
> Richard responds: That is one of the main reasons I do not go with comp since
> the universe seemingly got along without persons for such a long time. If I
> remember correctly when I questioned Bruno, he responded that the universe
> can do without persons but is not so robust (my word). I do not recall
> exactly how Bruno expressed it.
OK, fair enough but you seem to be suggesting that this train of logic
falsifies comp? How? In addition, how can we know that "persons" (ie observers)
were somehow not present at the birth of the universe? Numbers were,
apparently.
k
>
>
>> On Sat, Jun 7, 2014 at 12:43 AM, Kim Jones <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> On 7 Jun 2014, at 12:58 pm, LizR <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>>>> On 6 June 2014 23:46, Kim Jones <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>> Why do you feel I am being sarcastic? I thought what you wrote was
>>>>> amazing so I said so. Is it actually possible to deliver someone an
>>>>> honest compliment around here or is having a siege mentality mandatory?
>>>
>>>
>>> I may have a bit of a siege mentality. As someone without any suitable
>>> academic qualifications to discuss physics, I always feel that I am
>>> probably about to shoot myself in the foot every time I open my mouth.
>>>
>>> (I also have a morbid fear of coming out with mixed metaphors... :-)
>>
>> Think nothing of it, Ma'am. The one who truly has the siege mentality is
>> currently cooling his heels after attacking the nicest guy on the planet,
>> Bruno, for having a different notion of falsification to him. This sort of
>> thing furthermore illustrates what I meant when I said there can be as many
>> sides to a story as there are heads in the room to advance a rational
>> perspective or point of view.
>>
>> Sorry to mix up the threads momentarily, but why MUST there be only one
>> definition of falsification? That to me is as ridiculous as saying there is
>> only one side to a building. It simply depends on which side of the building
>> you are standing in front of as to what you report. To think otherwise is
>> like saying with confidence that all buldings are like those flats they use
>> in hollywood to simulate a wild western town - a facade only and nothing
>> behind that one face. What properly trained thinkers always do is seek the
>> common ground in the presentation of their ideas. This involves the complete
>> suspension of judgement; at least till all the pieces of the jigsaw are on
>> the table. Every person carries a unique perspective, their 1p perception of
>> "reality". This is the main reason I go with comp; it's a vaccine as Bruno
>> says, agsinst the elimination of the person. Indeed, if comp is true,
>> persons are the only things that are the really real part of reality. Let's
>> have more respect for persons and their clearly diverging points of view.
>> But, in order to have the same point of view we would all have to be
>> standing in the exact same spot. Now that's my definition of impossible.
>>
>> K
>>
>>
>>
>>
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