Sorry, I still don't get it. How can those subjective probabilities tally with the fact that there are 2 branches, both of which contain a version of Alice and Bob?
If I'm Bob, how can I subjectively be 90% in branch B and 10% in branch A? What is it that has gone 90% into branch B that gives Bob that 90% chance of experiencing it? Are there 9 versions of bob's inner experience in branch B, and only 1 version in A (or something similar) ? On 10 June 2014 13:48, Russell Standish <[email protected]> wrote: > OK - there are 2 future branches, A and B, each of which have equal > objective probability of occurring. Ie the Born rule says each has a > probability of 0.5. > > However, perhaps _subjectively_, Alice sees branch A with probability > 0.9 and branch B with probability 0.1, and Bob sees branch A with > probability 0.1 and branch B with probability 0.9. > > Both A and B have an Alice and a Bob, neither of whom are zombies. But > A's Bob and B's Alice would have seen the "failure" of their method of > controlling their subjective outcome. The magic spell (let's say) they > used to influence their futures was a dud (like Catweazle's). > > Cheers > > On Tue, Jun 10, 2014 at 12:51:35PM +1200, LizR wrote: > > Sorry, I meant to type "10 future branches, all of which contain a copy > of > > both Alice and Bob". > > > > > > On 10 June 2014 12:49, LizR <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > On 9 June 2014 16:02, Russell Standish <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > >> Perhaps Alice gets future A with probability 0.9 and future B with > > >> > > > p=0.1, and Bob vice versa. > > >> > > > > > > Sorry to be obtuse but I can't see how this works. Please could you > spell > > > it out as I tried to do, e.g. by assuming there are 10 future branches, > > > both containing a copy of Alice and Bob. How does Alice get A with 0.9, > > > etc? It doesn't appear to add up, but I may be missing something... > > > > > >> > > >> Then there would be no zombies. But then the influence on subjective > > >> probabilities is no longer infallible. > > >> > > >> You pays your money, and you takes your choices :). > > >> > > >> Cheers > > >> > > >> -- > > >> > > >> > > >> > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > >> Prof Russell Standish Phone 0425 253119 (mobile) > > >> Principal, High Performance Coders > > >> Visiting Professor of Mathematics [email protected] > > >> University of New South Wales http://www.hpcoders.com.au > > >> > > >> Latest project: The Amoeba's Secret > > >> (http://www.hpcoders.com.au/AmoebasSecret.html) > > >> > > >> > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > >> > > >> -- > > >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups > > >> "Everything List" group. > > >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, > send an > > >> email to [email protected]. > > >> To post to this group, send email to [email protected] > . > > >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. > > >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > > >> > > > > > > > > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups "Everything List" group. > > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send > an email to [email protected]. > > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. > > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > > -- > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Prof Russell Standish Phone 0425 253119 (mobile) > Principal, High Performance Coders > Visiting Professor of Mathematics [email protected] > University of New South Wales http://www.hpcoders.com.au > > Latest project: The Amoeba's Secret > (http://www.hpcoders.com.au/AmoebasSecret.html) > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
