On 11 June 2014 04:35, Bruno Marchal <[email protected]> wrote: > On 09 Jun 2014, at 19:13, spudboy100 via Everything List wrote: > > Ok good point > > Justice and revenge are human inventions > > Oooooh... That looks like a human belief. >
I may have been too hasty. They're almost certainly evolutionary inventions. > > I am afraid that the justice problem haunts many Löbian machines and > Löbian gods (Non Turing effective set of beliefs, or numbers). > > Please elaborate! > I am sure there are zoologists and anthropologists, who would have oodles > of observed behavior for the former. Justice is rarely objective, however > better tech may render our species better choices. This is an optimistic > guess. > > Justice is when the laws are applied equally to all citizens. > > If a law is unapplicable or unjust, well you can still write a book and > suggest changing a law. > > Justice, like truth are ideal concepts, or guiding concepts. Pain also, in > teaching us what to avoid, it can guide to what is better. > > Justice is not necessarily about punishment or revenge, but of restauring > trust in the references. > > If you are raped by the local priest regularly since some times, justice > is already there a little bit when it stops. > > Like in the health, we have only that: harm reduction. Tiny improvements. > Of course when bandits take or influence powers, "harm reduction" is > presented as tolerance which is not well seen those days. > > Hmm. I will have to think about that. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

