On 12 June 2014 07:01, Bruno Marchal <[email protected]> wrote: > > On 11 Jun 2014, at 13:45, spudboy100 via Everything List wrote: > > I don't know. To me, a huge fatality count for you homeland, might suggest > a huge response. What if your murderers take your civilized response for > weakness and prepare another attack? This would be my concern. > > I can understand the use of torture and the dismiss of human right in > urgent situation is a conflict. That is why I did not have problem with > Bush at the start. But even in the serie 24 the hero (Jack Bauer) is > condemned for those acts (despite he saves many lives from those acts). > > Obama criticized Bush for having done those thing illegaly, and made them > legal! > > That is anti-constitiutional, anti-democratical. It does not make sense. > Obama countersigned it and promised not applying the bill, but then what? > > Be sure to vote only to a candidate which promises as first act when > elected to add the precision needed in that act. > > You cannot use terror against terror. You cannot lose your > civilization-nes in the process of defending yourself from the barbarian, > without becoming barbarian. >
Exactly. You gaze into the abyss, the abyss gazes into you. > > If we tolerate by law that the human right does not apply to some humans, > all humans lose the human rights. > > It makes us weak, at first sight. But quite strongest for the long run. > I think this line in particular is in response to the original question. > > Violence is never a good argument, especially against violence. It can be > a good strategy in exceptional self-defense situation. That one can be > cured by ... piece treatises. The one by Obama can't, as it installs war at > home perpetually. > > "War is peace" Indeed. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
