On 11 Jun 2014, at 13:45, spudboy100 via Everything List wrote:
I don't know. To me, a huge fatality count for you homeland, might
suggest a huge response. What if your murderers take your civilized
response for weakness and prepare another attack? This would be my
concern.
I can understand the use of torture and the dismiss of human right in
urgent situation is a conflict. That is why I did not have problem
with Bush at the start. But even in the serie 24 the hero (Jack Bauer)
is condemned for those acts (despite he saves many lives from those
acts).
Obama criticized Bush for having done those thing illegaly, and made
them legal!
That is anti-constitiutional, anti-democratical. It does not make
sense. Obama countersigned it and promised not applying the bill, but
then what?
Be sure to vote only to a candidate which promises as first act when
elected to add the precision needed in that act.
You cannot use terror against terror. You cannot lose your
civilization-nes in the process of defending yourself from the
barbarian, without becoming barbarian.
If we tolerate by law that the human right does not apply to some
humans, all humans lose the human rights.
It makes us weak, at first sight. But quite strongest for the long run.
Violence is never a good argument, especially against violence. It can
be a good strategy in exceptional self-defense situation. That one can
be cured by ... piece treatises. The one by Obama can't, as it
installs war at home perpetually.
Bruno
Of course not. I probably wouldn't either. This is why we have the
rule of law, due process, etc.
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On 11 June 2014 11:26, spudboy100 via Everything List <[email protected]
> wrote:
Oh, but its not a NZ product, this is smuggled in from outsize NZ
and masked so that no radiation is detected by your security
services. Let us say a huge amount of people are slain, I mean
really, huge. Could one respond with such dignity and rationality as
you yourself possess? I know you would, but your fellow Kiwis?
Everyone in NZ would because of your country's size and structure of
population will have, the way I envision this attack, will know
somebody who died from the attack. You've been non-nuclear since
Reagan and Thatcher, but when the violence gets personal, I wonder
if your fellow Kiwis will react as logically as you?
Of course not. I probably wouldn't either. This is why we have the
rule of law, due process, etc.
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