On Wed, Jun 25, 2014 at 7:11 PM, meekerdb <[email protected]> wrote:

>  On 6/25/2014 7:36 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
>
> Some claim that my problem in Brussels was that in the introduction to
> "Conscience & Mécanisme" I make clear what I mean by agnostic  (~[] g) and
> atheists ([]~g). Natural language confuse easily ~[] and []~. Modal logic
> is useful if only to explain that difference.
>
>
> It's more complicated than that.  It depends on what you mean by "g".  Is
> it the god of theism, who is a person who created the world, answers
> prayers, and judges humans in an afterlife.  Or is it the god of deism who
> created the world but doesn't act in it.  Or is it one of the "gods" of
> mystics who is a principle or "nature" or an unnameable and unknowable
> something.  Literally "atheist" is one who is not a theist, one who fails
> to believe in the god of theism.   Thomas Jefferson was called an atheist
> because he believed in the god of deism.
>

This use with Jefferson as example is particular. Atheism in most contexts
is more broad, roughly the sense "belief in non-existence of god/deities";
where the kind of god matters less.

Unless of course, this is some kind of US linguistic use/habbit or domain
bound jargon. But if this is how you've always understood the term, then
this explains why we've disagreed here before. ~[]g and []~g is independent
of the kind of "g". PGC


>
> Brent
>
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